for everyone who wants a challange

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Wladicorist1 wrote:
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DrB00M wrote:
Honestly, I'm sorry but... this game to me, would be utterly pointless without a penalty. It literally would then become clicking a button for colour effects and gore.

Maybe that's why I can't play SC.

I also, in turn, find it extremely difficult to have sympathy for SC players who come out and demand a lower death penalty because content is too hard, frustrating or they don't understand it. As an avid HC player, who has to take into account DEFENSE, as well as offense, that's like someone saying they only play 50% of the game and want the game scaled back to their standard because they can't be bothered to put the effort in to understand how to play 100%.

I strongly disagree with the OP.


i criticize the penalty because most of the time i die because of lagg (desync)
and its just annoying because you put alot of hours into the game and then you die because of dumb reasons

and nope the content isnt hard ... lol basically what you say is
"just GIT GUD!" like the others
ive beaten the shaper guards in the beastiary league but stopped playing because it was boring same in incursion league
and dont blame it on my gear please because it has nothing to do with that ...


But the thing is, what you're saying is true for all of us. We all face desync, lag and other issues regarding deaths. And even then, we still play HC - Where the death penalty is final.

I understand that you're frustrated going two steps back and one step forward... but perhaps a better argument is: the current death penalty system only allows for select builds to advance the farthest in the game.

Because we all face the same issues, otherwise.
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DrB00M wrote:
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There's a significant difference between hardcore and softcore: hardcore players specifically choose to play with a harsh penalty, whereas it is imposed on other players.
The logic of comparing a forced handicap to a chosen one is flawed. Should you be forbidden to trade non-currency items because SSF don't trade at all? Should you be forbidden to wear rare items because some players go for all-normal equipment? Of course not. So please don't base your expectations for other players on your own favorite self-inflicted handicaps.
Players get to choose extra handicaps, and we don't want to remove your ability to get those extra-handicaps. What the base should be is an entirely different issue.
So much of this fight would be resolved if they just stopped making it take so long to level past 90 or even 95! Why are we arguing about the penalty when we should be arguing about exp gains?
We're all in this leaky boat together, people.
I'm just completely lost why HC players keep on coming here and telling what is wrong with SC players' attitude on playing SC.

They can stay on playing HC. But if there is a problem there, let me give out a suggestion: why not make it so HC death results in deleting the character outright. That way HC players stop meddling in game modes which they don't approve anyway.

Right?
Last edited by vmt80#6169 on Sep 29, 2018, 4:34:52 PM
the death penalty was ALREADY lowered from 15 to 10%.

people will complain until this game is candy crush - and we're already halfway there.

and exp gain is way higher than it once was, too. but again, people will still complain about the inverse.
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SisterBlister wrote:
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robmafia wrote:
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SisterBlister wrote:
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Fuck off.

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Please refrain from personal attacks or jabs and let's try to make this a productive discussion. Thanks!


...seriously.


Wow, that must be the most misrepresented quote I have ever seen in any medium, ever. In my eyes, that disqualifies you as a conversation partner and utterly invalidates anything you've ever said. Congratulations!


"quote" is the keyword. you said those things... and you said them in the same post. your hypocrisy isn't my fault.
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robmafia wrote:
the death penalty was ALREADY lowered from 15 to 10%.

people will complain until this game is candy crush - and we're already halfway there.



dude i understand that youre a really hardcore proplayer
but when was it when they lowered the penalty from 15% to 10% ??
also this isnt complaining this is criticism and its legitimate
only because you dont agree with others criticism it doesnt mean
they dont have the right to criticize the mechanics of the game

imo youre just here for trolling people ...

alo you should go play candy crush if you have experience in it :)
"There are Penalties in the Game, no one's complaining about them"
Chris Wilson Exilecon 2019
Don't feed the troll, Wladicorist1.
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Wladicorist1 wrote:
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robmafia wrote:
the death penalty was ALREADY lowered from 15 to 10%.

people will complain until this game is candy crush - and we're already halfway there.



dude i understand that youre a really hardcore proplayer
but when was it when they lowered the penalty from 15% to 10% ??
also this isnt complaining this is criticism and its legitimate
only because you dont agree with others criticism it doesnt mean
they dont have the right to criticize the mechanics of the game

imo youre just here for trolling people ...

alo you should go play candy crush if you have experience in it :)


so many fallacies in one post. i like how you accused me of believing that they don't have a "right" to complain. wtf?


this should be required reading for this thread: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/390491/page/1


and more complaints about the 15% xp loss:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/383229
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/100325/page/1
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/168503

etc and etc. this took ~10 whole seconds to look up.

it's funny that most of the criticism in this particular thread comes down to people literally complaining about having to think. having to decide risk:reward. it's only like... the basis of the game/genre.

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robmafia wrote:
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SisterBlister wrote:
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robmafia wrote:


...seriously.


Wow, that must be the most misrepresented quote I have ever seen in any medium, ever. In my eyes, that disqualifies you as a conversation partner and utterly invalidates anything you've ever said. Congratulations!


"quote" is the keyword. you said those things... and you said them in the same post. your hypocrisy isn't my fault.


Cherry-picking quotes and placing them out of context in order to misrepresent someone's statement is rhetorically dishonest.

Is that also not your fault?
Wash your hands, Exile!

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