People not answering to trade requests.

I buy and sell often. From my perspective i can tell that most situations when i don't respond to anybody comes from bad behaviour of buyers (buyers as a mass, not one specific person).

When i sell maps to avoid wasting my time i gather huge amount of different maps first. Then i use option to price all maps of same tier with a price of most expensive map to avoid spam (and slighty lower price after some time).
Most of the time it works however there are many situations i can think of that makes it impossible to me to answer anybody:

1) People don't check who is selling and spam one person multiple times, they just copy-post poe trade offer sending me tons of messages at once so if somebody is also trying to contact me he is lost in whole spam.

2) Takes too long to accept trade. For some unkown for me reason some people must spend one minute accepting trade button and another one looking at 3c red tier map. This way i waste a lot of time and can't trade with others.

3) Sends me pm asking for "another map because this one broken" like i should know what map they bought when i already sold maps to 10 other people. Of course they must send multiple messagess something like:
- "hey, my map broke"
- "do you have another one"
- "i take one"
<now they send me trade invitation"


4) When people bitching about some specific map. No matter that my map is the cheapest on poe.trade right now. They want their magic 3% quality map instead of clean one. They should tell me this in a first place so i would add chisel or something to make them happy and stop whining (yes i know rare, especially corrupted maps are desired by some people but this maps are priced separately)

5) Personally i also don't like all this "ty", "thanks" after trading some cheap items. It may sound as polite way of ending transaction however when you buy some cheap stuff, its not only you and my chat gets really spammy. Sometimes i try to invite one person but due to "ty" i missclick.

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Fruz wrote:

You're trying to convince us (and yourself) that it's not your fault if you're behaving like a prick in game but the fault of the system pushing you ..... you realize how weak that is ?

I'm not even reading beyond this point because you're not even reading what I'm writing.

Actually no, lets read some golden pieces of knowledge from only viable opinion from only knowledgeable man of earth who's opinion is one and only.

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Fruz wrote:

I'm not complaining about the trading system in any way, I'm satisfied enough of it when I play in trade leagues, sometimes there are dumb people's spam because they can't behave, but that's the way the world works, it's .... people.
And I'm not going to campain on the forum for that, we've just been pointing out that the usual forum "QQ people don't answer my trade messages QQ" is likely not the biggest "problem" regarding trading in the game, and that buyers are not necessarily the ones to pity.

Well boo-fucking-hoo Sir Fruz. I have news-flash for you - not everyone is you, and your opinion and way of playing isn't one and only valid one. What you just wrote is just basically admitting that you cannot discuss anything outside of your own mindset.

Everyone who doesn't agree with me is wrong.

Why are you even wasting our time writing those pointless posts when all you're really doing is telling everyone their opinion is wrong.
If you don't have a problem with current system - get the hell out of this thread and play the goddamn game. Otherwise I'll call you a liar and a attention Lady who is only here to complain about other people having opinions.
And if you actually have a good argument that is something more than bunch of weak ad hominems, I'm waiting for it with patience. But I have a feeling I may be a little disappointed.

lol, WOW.

I have no idea how you reached these conclusions, it's mind-blowing honestly, but also [auto-censored].

Everything that I just said of course still stands, I'm not expecting you to think and have anything actually substancial and clever to say about it, so I'm not waiting for anything particular.


/popcorn material here.

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It's always the same, you just can't accept/respect opinions different than yours.

Back to the topic:

When I'm buying maps/currency/everything with a more or less fixed price I HAVE to spam a lot of people until I get what I want. Does it make me mad when the first 10 people don't respond? No.

Why? Because I know there is a) a delay between your stash and the display of the item availabilty on the website and b) there are enough other people who are offering the item.

Do I always respond? No. If someone just bought my 5 Pristine fossils and 3 people whisper me 1min later because of said delay I'm not going to waste my time responding "sold" to 3 people. They'll know if I'll trade them or not by me responding or not.

Does that make me a bad person? Hell no, or yes... I don't give a shit. In the end of the day what counts for me is if I got my items sold or if I bought the items I want.

Deal with it, it's called a free market.

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TheRealLeviathan wrote:

I don't give a shit. In the end of the day what counts for me is if I got my items sold or if I bought the items I want.

i find it astonishing that THIS is your "in the end of the day..." for playing a video game.

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TheRealLeviathan wrote:

Deal with it, it's called a free market.

lolwut? nothing says laissez-faire like spamming a bunch of people to trade with one, based mostly on happenstance. yup, it's the current year.

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i find it astonishing that THIS is your "in the end of the day..." for playing a video game.

What are you even trying to say with this? Sounds like pure provocation for me. I am referring to trades (as the topic also suggests) so stop reading stuff between the lines that's not there.

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lolwut? nothing says laissez-faire like spamming a bunch of people to trade with one, based mostly on happenstance. yup, it's the current year.

Can you write something in understandable english? It's not my native language and again I have no clue what the gist of that noodle-soup of a comment is supposed to be.

Didn't expect more of you though, tbh.

misuses the term "free market," doesn't seem to know what "laissez-faire" means.

a+

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nothing says laissez-faire like spamming a bunch of people to trade with one, based mostly on happenstance.

You better learn how to write down a structured sentence because this ain't one. a++ mate.

I googled your french terms that no one ever uses in my country, sry for not being a elitist economy expert like you. Makes no sense in the constellation you've posted in your rape of grammar, though.

But again, nothing productive coming from you, just mild insults with a pinch of arrogance thrown at me, suits you right.

Yeah, I see, there's no point in arguing here. Have fun waiting 5 minutes for every traderequest, whiteknight.

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TheRealLeviathan wrote:

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nothing says laissez-faire like spamming a bunch of people to trade with one, based mostly on happenstance.

You better learn how to write down a structured sentence because this ain't one. a++ mate.

I googled your french terms that no one ever uses in my country, sry for not being a elitist economy expert like you. Makes no sense in the constellation you've posted in your rape of grammar, though.

But again, nothing productive coming from you, just mild insults with a pinch of arrogance thrown at me, suits you right.

Yeah, I see, there's no point in arguing here. Have fun waiting 5 minutes for every traderequest, whiteknight.

you picked a perfectly valid sentence to use as an example of bad grammar.

a++

as for "french terms that no one ever uses in my country (laissez-faire)" - hahahahaha. wtf? since you don't comprehend rudimentary economics (and it's apparently not taught in your country), i'd recommend refraining from pretending that random spam is "free market."

i do like how you just accused me of using insults, though. please cite one. you won't. you can't.

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TheRealLeviathan wrote:

Yo Fruz, in every thread I see you in you're the most ignorant, close minded person I can imagine, it's aggravating.

It's always the same, you just can't accept/respect opinions different than yours.

Thank you for your constructive participation here.
Or not.

From some people, that could reach me, from some other .... it's pretty much the other way around lol.

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TehRealLeviathan wrote:

When I'm buying maps/currency/everything with a more or less fixed price I HAVE to spam a lot of people until I get what I want.

Well, now that you are showing that you don't mind being disrespectful of other people's time at all, this confirm even more what I was thinking.




Toxic

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robmafia wrote:

misuses the term "free market," doesn't seem to know what "laissez-faire" means.

a+

Google too hard to use ?
edit : he did end up using it ....
In a world where the information is so easily available, one would think that a reflex would be to look for what one does not understand ...
Am I being a bit of an utopist regarding that lol ?