People not answering to trade requests.

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looked at what other games experienced (D3 for example)


There's a teeny tiny little detail you're mission out on.

Diablo III had a R E A L M O N E Y A U C T I O N H O U S E

Diablo III also had really shitty itemization, there were only a handful of stats that would make or break an item, as opposed to PoE's itemization. To claim Diablo III turned into crap because of the gold auction house is absolutely preposterous and borderline historic revisionism.
We are going to shut down Beyond immigration into our maps until we find out what the Hell is going on!
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Obliviongamer91 wrote:
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looked at what other games experienced (D3 for example)


There's a teeny tiny little detail you're mission out on.

Diablo III had a R E A L M O N E Y A U C T I O N H O U S E

That it was a real money AH didn't change the fact that it was a bad(!) idea...

Even without money it would have been bad, as it is in any game where items aren't 'used up while being used'. They accumulate too fast as they don't leave the economy, driving prices down to next to 0, except for the very top items and what is a 'top item' is continually pushed upwards.

The only exception is if you have heavy use of account binding for items, which they've said they wouldn't do.

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Obliviongamer91 wrote:
Diablo III also had really shitty itemization, there were only a handful of stats that would make or break an item, as opposed to PoE's itemization.

Yeah... Right! PoE has exactly the same 'problem' (if it is one). It isn't a 'problem' in PoE... because there is no easy trading!

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Obliviongamer91 wrote:
To claim Diablo III turned into crap because of the gold auction house is absolutely preposterous and borderline historic revisionism.

Nope... Just a fact that you don't like...
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Obliviongamer91 wrote:
And the part I find almost insulting is how they claim that being able to gear your character too quickly would result in boredom. DO they even play their own game? Act 1-10 is boring, the lab is boring, the Azurite mine becomes boring and routine very quickly and mapping is soul drainingly boring after you've completed half the Atlas because it's always the same routine in every single league ever.

I don't find it boring.

Try again.
And if you're that bored, well ... goodbye ?
Honestly, why stay if everything here just bores you ?


PS : They never "fixed" desync, they ended up adding lockstep, which likely provides a worse experience for many players, especially with a very unstable connection (depending on the skill set)

SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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dyneol wrote:
Goes both ways. Buyers are incredibly impatient and spam 9000 traders at the same time. As a seller knowing this - if I dare to take longer than 3 seconds to respond, it's pretty much certain that the person in question already moved on.

I also get messages like "K IGNORED" and the like, when I take longer than 3 seconds.

Yeah, because this system makes them act like that, i pretty much do the same and for some items such as maps or currency I'm happy when 1 of 10 invites me. But when i'm selling sometimes i send invite 30s-1min after they whisper me (i use mercury trade, so i can track it) and they often respond. I'd say that in recent days i had like 2-3 trade failures that were on buyer's, and trade lot's of very shitty items like maps, currency, gems, shitty vendor-tier uniques.
Sometimes i invite them after 1 min when I'm still in the Delve and they wait for me 1 or 2 mins.
And honestly, I'm not pissed off at the sellers, especially now, in Delve u can't really go back and do the trade in less than 30 secs. Also I have never situation when they somebody would say 'k ignored'
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Fruz wrote:
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robmafia wrote:
no, impatient/self-entitled people do that. and it creates a vicious cycle. ...which is the best part. the complainers are responsible for that which they complain about.

Why don't people can't understand compromises ?
If you message somebody, and if 20 sec later there is no answer, you message another one.
If later the first player invites you while you are trading with the second one, you can always send a message "give me a sec to finish this trade first please" and get things done, while still being civil, and not wasting your time, or anybody else's time actually.
If you honestly think that being civil/polite means waiting 5 mins after sending a message, doing nothing like a vegetable in front of your screen ....
I'm honestly not sure what to tell you.


Why can't people simply agree on something instead of denying something for no good reason?
You're literally virtue signaling when I've already told you that what is causing the behavior you're complaining about. No amount of your whining about people being people or trying to explain something everyone understands here will ever fix anything.

Simple example - people are littering certain spot in long walkway.
There are two thing you can do:
- Complain about it and tell people who are doing in that they shouldn't be doing it
- Put down a fucking bin so that people don't have to carry their stuff for kilometers on end.

And I already know what is going to be your answer - so you're saying littering is fine?! So you're excusing people being uncultured pigs?! So you'd litter yourself?! Omg what kind of person you are!1123oneone
No. I wouldn't. But I'm not a fool who'd think that I can fix every problem of the world by signaling my virtues to everyone around and expect something to change.
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Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.
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Pangaearocks wrote:
When people don't respond I tend to check /whois. If they're in the lab or something it makes sense they don't respond, sometimes you're just busy. But it's weird when they're in the hideout and still can't be arsed to respond.


Yep. I see them in hideout and not responding after several /whois queries (to make sure they're not prepping for delve or mapping), I assume they're a price fixer and put them on ignore.

I swear, the ignore button is one of the best things the official trade indexer could have.
PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.

Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build!

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There are alot reasons when ppl not respond or cannot.

Just one lil story.
Once I got enough to spam 1c tradereqs.

Then just offered 5c to the last one nonresponded.
Got invited right in the next second xD
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Perq wrote:


Why can't people simply agree on something instead of denying something for no good reason?
You're literally virtue signaling when I've already told you that what is causing the behavior you're complaining about. No amount of your whining about people being people or trying to explain something everyone understands here will ever fix anything.

Simple example - people are littering certain spot in long walkway.
There are two thing you can do:
- Complain about it and tell people who are doing in that they shouldn't be doing it
- Put down a fucking bin so that people don't have to carry their stuff for kilometers on end.

And I already know what is going to be your answer - so you're saying littering is fine?! So you're excusing people being uncultured pigs?! So you'd litter yourself?! Omg what kind of person you are!1123oneone
No. I wouldn't. But I'm not a fool who'd think that I can fix every problem of the world by signaling my virtues to everyone around and expect something to change.


i have no idea how this post is a follow-up to advocating the intentional spamming of multiple players to intentionally trade with just one.

and, as usual, the first 3 sentences are woefully hypocritical.
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Perq wrote:
Why can't people simply agree on something instead of denying something for no good reason?
You're literally virtue signaling when I've already told you that what is causing the behavior you're complaining about. No amount of your whining about people being people or trying to explain something everyone understands here will ever fix anything.

There is no "denying" anything like wtf.

You're trying to convince us (and yourself) that it's not your fault if you're behaving like a prick in game but the fault of the system pushing you ..... you realize how weak that is ?


I'm not complaining about the trading system in any way, I'm satisfied enough of it when I play in trade leagues, sometimes there are dumb people's spam because they can't behave, but that's the way the world works, it's .... people.
And I'm not going to campain on the forum for that, we've just been pointing out that the usual forum "QQ people don't answer my trade messages QQ" is likely not the biggest "problem" regarding trading in the game, and that buyers are not necessarily the ones to pity.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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TIL: not responding to a spammer is "virtue signaling"
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