WHAT is your league STARTER for 3.3 and Why?

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1453R wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

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1453R wrote:

I really don't get the "I can't do any planning at all without patch notes!" folks. Realistically, we have more than enough information to make a good guesstimate of ninety percent of the skill content of the patch already. Nobody's asking for a Blood Oath, just an idea of what folks're doing.

Anyways.

I really wanted to do a (Vaal) Arc build this league, but I can't get the numbers up enough to satisfy at the moment. I'm contemplating Elemental Hit, likely as a wander (Piscator's Vigil E-Hit OP, yo), but am keeping a fairly typical Juggernaut 'melee' start in the pocket. I've never actually done the Standard Jugg Sunder/EQ/Tectonic League Start, and have also frequently struggled with league starts on some of the weirdgirl shit I've tried to bake up since I don't tend to play more than two or three characters a league and want to make even my starter count.

If anyone's got a solid idea and/or pointers for Vaarc, I'd appreciate it. Always loved that skill, the new version looks bitchin', and I haven't run an Elementalist in a while.

I didn't do any math but shouldn't the new (v)arc's damage be absolute bonkers? They literally almost tripled the damage and the clear got way better with the secondary chaining.

I can't peg much over 120k DPS in Path of Bonking with Arc. I'm not a Math of Exile purist or one of those that refuses to play anything without seven-digit numbers, but I've run a few too many sub-100k false starts to really enjoy the thought of trying another one -_-. I'd made myself a sort-of promise that if I couldn't reasonably get around 250k base with a build I wanted to try even with PoBonking's awkwardly minmaxed ideal gearing, I'd look into other options.

Admittedly I'm not bothering with crit because fuck crit for a 5% base crit spell, I don't have nearly enough bloody cash for that especially at league start, and I suppose Path of Bonking isn't accounting for that fat extra-bounce MOAR modifier in the 3.3 version that lets Arc actually try and pretend to do single target damage. Hm. I do really want to play with Arc/Beacon of Ruin, get those delicious guaranteed max-value Shocks on literally everything...

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Gubert wrote:

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carkasjak wrote:

Might try something like Ignite Trickster (fireball?) to take advantage of the ignite rework. If it ends up being too tedious to level I might fall back on Hierophant Arc Totems to get the atlas all set up before rerolling something with better clearspeed. Having seen the new Arc gem I think that'll be the most overpowered league starter tbh.

I can't find the changes on arc anywhere.. what has changed please?

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Jackel6672 wrote:

Going with my glacial hammer Triple curse build i have been perfecting for 3 years. Almost every league i get a buff, this one is no exception.

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daze16 wrote:

A quick simple tree in path of building with a 6-link arc elementalist with a power charge + crit build using wrath + herald of thunder, assassins mark, a diamond flask and 2 void batteries (literally no other gear) gets me to 180k dps on arc, before any of the new changes, which quickly becomes a minimum of 216k with the minimum 20% shock on our elementalist. with the new arc changes, this will be a little over 400k on the first target hit.
Add in good rings and amulets and gloves, another damage flask, filling up the 3 empty sockets, and getting a source of frenzy charges and you're getting close to that 1kk damage threshold, on a skill that can essentially chain to 20 enemies and has a sweet new vaal skill that goes with it. Arc will be strong this league (but totem and mine arc will be stronger)

sample poe planner tree
https://poeplanner.com/AAwAAPkADCMAAHnfsIIQj6ZEq1WuLJwFQkGW0PWus0yzIG5QMNAf7-sEB4PbVcY6WNteEQ9-r40Z4BLZX92MtYXvUMG0LX0RLXyD6-6a4EWdU1Ic3I8aLR-VIMHzoqMPxDt8uMp_xhGWBx6VLvDVSVGP-uv1wwm5k_IdDkhd8ioLcFKJ04w2VUth4iaVFr_jhA3RY0MbyM_d8Yo2PZ2qbIxirDLRRUfAZgSzogDwH6cIj0YdFI5k96a2-vrSFm_jaiSqNulo8uFzmjuCm-081aZXlClPa7eFfew4hXtmVDrYJy-QVRo4vOpqQwj0a3rIv0ZS_EyQ-t9tTIvvSwAAAAAA

As for me, I'm thinking ignite based incinerate, although the lack of clear speed may not make it the strongest end game farmer.

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DudeTheLegend wrote:

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Jackel6672 wrote:

Going with my glacial hammer Triple curse build i have been perfecting for 3 years. Almost every league i get a buff, this one is no exception.

Details please