How to sustain maps and currency?

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d2trust wrote:

Before sextants, zana mods, atlas etc people were sustaining 100s and 100s of high tier maps. I know cause I was one of their #1 buyers. They would claim they had tabs and tabs full of high tier maps I believed it too since I would buy from 30-70 maps at a time.

I recall in either the most recent turmoil or mayhem race. UberElite streamer was sustaining red maps mostly t14 promenade at the time by just running magic maps. The guy had more then a tab full at the time also I run dual monitor so I can watch streams as I play :)

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KillerKrug wrote:

T16 Maps = 490 c
T15 Maps = 345 c
T14 Maps = 130 c
T13 Maps = 48 c
T12 Maps = 24 c
T11 Maps = 1ß c

so just with the maps alone i got 1055 chaos back, so 500c left ( and my currency drops alone are waaaaaaaay more than that

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Orbaal wrote:

Was watching too and you shouldnt have muted him.
He was explaining his #3 strategy all the time and it was easy enough to follow:
Check /global for next hrs map mod and run chests if you can - done.

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Vias_Myton wrote:

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Orbaal wrote:

Was watching too and you shouldnt have muted him.
He was explaining his #3 strategy all the time and it was easy enough to follow:
Check /global for next hrs map mod and run chests if you can - done.

I know some leagues may have high amount of bonus drops by having nice additional mods. But shouldnt I be able to do the baseline of sustaining in standard, too? Or is that a "nobody cares about standard" line?

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Vias_Myton wrote:

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KillerKrug wrote:

T16 Maps = 490 c
T15 Maps = 345 c
T14 Maps = 130 c
T13 Maps = 48 c
T12 Maps = 24 c
T11 Maps = 1ß c

so just with the maps alone i got 1055 chaos back, so 500c left ( and my currency drops alone are waaaaaaaay more than that

Thank you for your input, but this is the point that's not working for me. I know sustaining maps by doing maps alone is utopic. You claim doing 50ish maps would yield you currency drops greater than 500c? Thats about 10c per map! Thats incomparable more than I get, even if I count chaos recipe as currency drop.

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Orbaal wrote:

Standard league is that baseline. Temp leagues might add useful stuff like more mob density or special currency (like in Harbinger league) - but the standard baseline is sufficient.
To be sufficient it requires you to stack all tools available and grind hard.

If you do both, you will sustain even without league modifiers.


Thats business as usual.

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KillerKrug wrote:

well ex+shard = 160 c // ancient+shard around 180 c // divine = 50 --> 690 c ( used 115c:1 ex // 3.5 ancient : 1 ex / divine 25c each, which should be alright ) rest of the currency should be around 2-5 ex

so yeah i guess i am way ahread of the 500 which i claimed


also i didnt include the abyss jewels ( which are quite common with sextants ) ... ELder/shaper items which can sell for 5-100c pretty easy too
or the Div Cards which can drop

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Vias_Myton wrote:

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Orbaal wrote:

Standard league is that baseline. Temp leagues might add useful stuff like more mob density or special currency (like in Harbinger league) - but the standard baseline is sufficient.
To be sufficient it requires you to stack all tools available and grind hard.

If you do both, you will sustain even without league modifiers.


Thats business as usual.

Looks like Im not using all tools. What am I missing?

Or do you consider "grinding other things than maps" part of the tools needed to sustain maps? Like running 10 hours of Blood Aqueduct to buy maps. Because with that tool "sustaining" somewhat loses its original meaning.

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Orbaal wrote:

This is how I sustained red map last league:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2083426

Bestiary is a bit harder, since there is no extra mob density providing league mechanic this time around. Which means you should add Sextants to the mix and apply as many as you can - try to hit any Sextant mods providing extra monsters to increase density.
Also abusing Shaper/Elder ping pong is really powerful.

I need to stress out, that you are supposed to build a decent pool of red maps before you go for reds.
Bare minimum would be around 100+ atlas bonus and like 20ish red maps.
If you are lucky thats good enough to kickstart the snowballing process but dont expect that. It might actually take several approaches, which means you will drop down to yellows and have to rebuild a decent pool and try again.

Usually my league starter hits about lvl90-91 before I go for reds, if Im unwilling to buy maps for faster unlocks. If you buy unlocks, you can do it a lot faster. Up to you.
Expect it to be grindy and frustrating sometimes. Just dont give up and you will succeed.

Sustaining red maps is supposed to be a time and cash sink.
Keep that in mind and adjust your expectations.


Cheers