Let me FUCKING PLAY YOU STUPID GAME.

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kaepae wrote:

Regarding the hardware required: does your system meet the requirements set for PoE by GGG? If so, you should be able to play the game bug free. Some lag and long loading times should be acceptable, but not crashes.


Here's what it says on steam:
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OS: Windows XP SP3/Vista/Windows 7/8
Processor: x86-compatible 1.4GHz or faster processor
Memory: 2 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® 7800 GT or ATI Radeon™ X1950 Pro or better
DirectX: Version 9.0c
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 5 GB available space



People who find this game on steam will look at this. If this is not accurate, it should be changed.

I doubt you could login with those specs.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

Game hobbyists. What. Old man has completely lost it.

Games were never made for those $3000+ riggers and they still aren't. Games were originally made for 10 - 16 year old brats who played on their parents dogshit work computers and they still are. If anything, the opposite has happened what you just claimed. No need to delude yourself and others.

no youre wrong. i played back then also and your average pc was like $2k, you needed $3k+ for a decent gaming rig. mine was a fuckin $5k dell back then. (USD) the kids youre talking about would play the $100-$300 consoles their parents bought for them.

Okay, cool.
But not in this dimension. Unless you got scammed.

No need to argue with these people. Common sense is too much to ask. The concept of game developers making games that don't require a 2000 USD PC to have a bigger market grasp is such a complex thought!

Try reinstalling your Windows.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Game hobbyists from my era didn't even bat an eye on spending $3000+ every three years on a new rig. Money was worth more back then too. Seems odd to me that this generation thinks that spending $1000 on a machine is too much.

Because "this generation" works at McDonalds and is usually consisting of broke college students. I saved up the money for my own gaming PC with extreme effort and barely made it working a 10hr job every weekday. But we can't put blame on the gamers trying to enjoy the game -- we have to put the blame on the lack of optimization that was done on an extreme budget during 2008. That's why this game has so many issues, and why a new league is running an extreme performance risk for users and GGG.

lol wow I hope you have to work at mcdonalds someday.

I've worked at far worse, MCDonalds would honestly be a treat.

But hey, fail at what you're good at.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Game hobbyists from my era didn't even bat an eye on spending $3000+ every three years on a new rig. Money was worth more back then too. Seems odd to me that this generation thinks that spending $1000 on a machine is too much.

Game hobbyists. What. Old man has completely lost it.

Games were never made for those $3000+ riggers and they still aren't. Games were originally made for 10 - 16 year old brats who played on their parents dogshit work computers and they still are. If anything, the opposite has happened what you just claimed. No need to delude yourself and others.

Talk about dating yourself - this is how you can tell how long someone's been around the PC gaming scene. Hardware prices used to be insanely high so pc gamers paid extra for it and often had an air of elitism because of it.

Excluding simple stuff like minesweeper and solitaire you had no choice but to spend extra.

My first computer was a 386 had 2 megabytes of memory and a 100 Mb hd. I remember salivating the first time I saw a friend playing the original Prince of Persia - I still didn't even have a sound card at the time.

For years you didn't have much choice in spending several thousand because the technology jumps were massive.

I wasn't even a "hobbyist" back then.

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Valek27 wrote:

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kaepae wrote:

Regarding the hardware required: does your system meet the requirements set for PoE by GGG? If so, you should be able to play the game bug free. Some lag and long loading times should be acceptable, but not crashes.


Here's what it says on steam:
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OS: Windows XP SP3/Vista/Windows 7/8
Processor: x86-compatible 1.4GHz or faster processor
Memory: 2 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® 7800 GT or ATI Radeon™ X1950 Pro or better
DirectX: Version 9.0c
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 5 GB available space



People who find this game on steam will look at this. If this is not accurate, it should be changed.

I doubt you could login with those specs.

Technically you're right - but only because of storage since my current install is over 10gb.

Hardware wise you can get games to load below spec if you know what you're doing, not that it makes for a great experience.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Game hobbyists from my era didn't even bat an eye on spending $3000+ every three years on a new rig. Money was worth more back then too. Seems odd to me that this generation thinks that spending $1000 on a machine is too much.

Game hobbyists. What. Old man has completely lost it.

Games were never made for those $3000+ riggers and they still aren't. Games were originally made for 10 - 16 year old brats who played on their parents dogshit work computers and they still are. If anything, the opposite has happened what you just claimed. No need to delude yourself and others.

Talk about dating yourself - this is how you can tell how long someone's been around the PC gaming scene. Hardware prices used to be insanely high so pc gamers paid extra for it and often had an air of elitism because of it.

Excluding simple stuff like minesweeper and solitaire you had no choice but to spend extra.

My first computer was a 386 had 2 megabytes of memory and a 100 Mb hd. I remember salivating the first time I saw a friend playing the original Prince of Persia - I still didn't even have a sound card at the time.

For years you didn't have much choice in spending several thousand because the technology jumps were massive.

I wasn't even a "hobbyist" back then.

This is how I can tell how long someone's been around the PC gaming. When I bought my first computer it had 1 MB of memory and it cost 100 000 USD. Man, what a pleb you are!

Seriously, maybe you weren't a "hobbyist" back then because you couldn't be one? PC gaming didn't exist in a proper form until 2000+. Before that almost everyone whored consoles.

My first PC was around 2000 which was some old military computer that was being thrown away, played Starcraft and Dungeon Keeper, AOE 2 flawlessly. Didn't cost more than 700$ at that time.

My second PC was around 2005 which I scrapped together myself, was ~ 800$. I had it til 2010 and played League of Legends / Gunz online / WoW on it.

Then I bought a 500$ garbage laptop which ran Skyrim and League of Legends @ 2011

My current PC is 4 years old and the box cost 1000$. Eventhough I'm rich as fuck, there is still no need for me to change it out because it runs everything smoothly. My three monitors and a 55 inch TV that is hooked on it cost double of what the cost of my box is.

I don't even have to bring up anecdotal experiences simply because:
GAME DEVS DON'T MAKE GAMES THAT 90% OF THE PEOPLE CAN'T PLAY BECAUSE OF SYSTEM RESTRICTIONS.
If all other multiplayer games that I play are able to push out games that run with my specs without any problems and one specific game can't, then I simply don't play that game.
This isn't rocket science.

Early PC's weren't aimed at gaming. They had enough of a rendering capacity to provide a visual interface (dos/shell/whatever) for basic applications to work on some data. The whole VGA thing came later and upgrades to that were relatively very expensive. I'm talking the 90s here. I can't remember specific eliteness other than hey look at my expensive crap that cost triple the price and actually only gives a 10% increase because components were hardly working together and most of the cost was for R&D returns.

PCs were shit for gaming.


Luckily for me, there was Commodore :D.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

This is how I can tell how long someone's been around the PC gaming. When I bought my first computer it had 1 MB of memory and it cost 100 000 USD. Man, what a pleb you are!

Seriously, maybe you weren't a "hobbyist" back then because you couldn't be one? PC gaming didn't exist in a proper form until 2000+. Before that almost everyone whored consoles.

My first PC was around 2000 which was some old military computer that was being thrown away, played Starcraft and Dungeon Keeper, AOE 2 flawlessly. Didn't cost more than 700$ at that time.

My second PC was around 2005 which I scrapped together myself, was ~ 800$. I had it til 2010 and played League of Legends / Gunz online / WoW on it.

Then I bought a 500$ garbage laptop which ran Skyrim and League of Legends @ 2011

My current PC is 4 years old and the box cost 1000$. Eventhough I'm rich as fuck, there is still no need for me to change it out because it runs everything smoothly. My three monitors and a 55 inch TV that is hooked on it cost double of what the cost of my box is.

I don't even have to bring up anecdotal experiences simply because:
GAME DEVS DON'T MAKE GAMES THAT 90% OF THE PEOPLE CAN'T PLAY BECAUSE OF SYSTEM RESTRICTIONS.
If all other multiplayer games that I play are able to push out games that run with my specs without any problems and one specific game can't, then I simply don't play that game.
This isn't rocket science.

your argument is really flawed and to top it off youre being patronizing with it. you say your shitty used pc could run skyrim, and you mention a handful of other games that werent exactly known for their hardware-pushing graphics at the time that a used, and thrown-together pc you bought for under $1000 could run flawlessly (on what settings). a lot of what you said was arbitrary.

sure, there were kids playing these games on low settings on their parents home pcs/work computers, and maybe this is where devs were making a lot of their $$. but NEW PC prices back then were very high compared to now and even then the cost-differential between a home pc and a gaming pc was huge. you buying a crappy used one, or building one from scrap parts just isnt really an argument. apples and oranges. your AVERAGE shitty pc back then was $1500-2000 ish new, and gaming ones were $3000+ for a NEW PC (mine, a fuckin dell, was around $5000 and wasnt even their best one. it had a geforce 6600gtx i believe. this was 2005. sadly i didnt know enough to build my own at the time.) yeah, theyre WAY cheaper now as the pc market has expanded. like you, i built my current one a couple years ago for around $1000 and it can run virtually anything. with a GPU upgrade it COULD run anything.

but it doesnt matter who the devs were making games for. their original point is right that enthusiasts were spending thousands on PCs back then and the juxtaposition to todays gamers/market is pretty starking. PCs are incredibly cheap now and ppl still bitch about the cost. i dont really see people bragging about their early-pc-gaming-enthusiast-street-cred as much as calling out crybabies who dont know how good they have it.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

Eventhough I'm rich as fuck, there is still no need for me to change it out because it runs everything smoothly. My three monitors and a 55 inch TV that is hooked on it cost double of what the cost of my box is.

I don't even have to bring up anecdotal experiences simply because:
GAME DEVS DON'T MAKE GAMES THAT 90% OF THE PEOPLE CAN'T PLAY BECAUSE OF SYSTEM RESTRICTIONS.
If all other multiplayer games that I play are able to push out games that run with my specs without any problems and one specific game can't, then I simply don't play that game.
This isn't rocket science.

I was never saying that devs make games most people can't play - I was pointing out that hardware changed drastically in the last 10-15 years and like Shag said, there was a time machines really did cost over 3000.

I do find it ironic that you seem to be blaming the coding of the game for poor performance and then arguing that games aren't made to be out of reach based on hardware reqs.

The last game I came from was built on an engine that was designed for a game that never made it to production. I couldn't run it at release because my machine was way too underpowered, and when I finally could my budget vid card was struggling.

I can remember specs of my first computer because it still amazes me just how much has changed since then, as younger folk don't seem to appreciate the tech that helped lead to their smartphones they're always on.

I can barely remember what's in my current machine as I haven't felt a need to change anything once I swapped the video card.

But I do find it funny when folks on $100 vid cards expect $1000 performance.