In Content Update 3.2.0, the Herald of Ash Skill Gem will work on spells.

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Reichugo232323 wrote:

Does HoA "hit"?

Can it curse on hit is my main question

The burn applied to surrounding enemies on kill does not count as a hit.

if your are thinking linking CoH to HoA,

no it doesn't cause curse to be applied, as overburn is not a hit. (more like a degen)

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cuocdoitan wrote:

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Brian9824 wrote:

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cuocdoitan wrote:

This is not fair you know GGG? Why Herald of Fire is the only Herald buff for MORE elemental damage ? Cut it out please, you will break the game with that mod

Who says its the only one?

What ? Where is the line buff for more [elemental type] damage of Herald of Ice/Lightning

Well, have you seen the 3.2 versions of HoI/HoL?

Hummm ok better... BUT

I don't get why you still have the "Gain 15% of you physical damage" still in there?

15% more on already strong skills like KB and GC, and nothing for pure elemental spells well... no thats not ok.

Also why does it mechanicaly differ totaly against the other heralds?



So, NO, go back and rethink this one please.

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Uoykai wrote:

so it is Glacial cascade + avatar + cold to fire With Scion Elementalist (+40% effectivness of heralds) = 21% phys damage to fire + 17% more spell damage???

Why is it no rework of other heralds to have "more damage"?

Why would you use a Scion Elementalist? When you can use the Elementalist, who is far superior? Cascade on Elementalist is at least 25% pen. Regardless of what Scion combo you can come up with, it doesn't get up to 25% pen. Not to mention the other nodes you can take from just being Elementalist.

15% increased fire damage is for the HoA damage only.
38% more burning damage is for the HoA damage only.
12% more spell fire damage is both for the HoA and for the main spell(s).
The duration tag means it's now officially supported by Swift Affliction and other duration-based modifying support gems, for added damage / less duration.

N.B. Herald of Ash has had one change, the addition of 'x% More Spell Fire Damage', otherwise it remains the same as before.

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Bex_GGG wrote:

The wording sucks - as has been pointed out. It really should be made clear which buffs are global and which are local.

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cuocdoitan wrote:

So the overkill burning effect will be triggered by Bear Trap now ?

Far as I know Bear trap is not considered 'you' so it wont.

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aryosgr wrote:

15% increased fire damage is for the HoA damage only.

This used to be global so I would expect it to remain so. (It would also be weird if the local quality is phrased as 'fire' and the other local one as 'burning'.)

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Chalk_Circles wrote:

N.B. Herald of Ash has had one change, the addition of 'x% More Spell Fire Damage', otherwise it remains the same as before.

It is no longer restricted to attacks.

It's best suited for direct fire spell builds Imo.

Okie... I still don't get it why GGG limit the bonus to phys damage..

Im actually getting relly pissed about it... and thats not normal....

Take the concept from the other heralds.

per quality: 0.75% increased xxx Damage
Adds (nr) to (nr) xxx Damage to Spells
Adds (nr) to (nr) xxx Damage to Attacks
<Herald specific damage>


Good concept and it works for everything, (the numbers could do with an adjustment but that is another issue) but no that wouldn't do....
Instead we only buff already bordeline broken skills like KB/GC and "normal" attacks.

what???? Why are you deliberatly not allowing it to apply to pure fire spells like FB/FS/FT and so on?
I don't get it.

It's so unnecessary to artficially limit it this way.

The only reason I can come up with is that it's a 100% afterthought connected to the Elementalist, aka an ugly quick fix. "woups our fancy new herald node doesn't work for fire"


I must have missed something very important :(

/me taking a break from thinking on this to cool off