General Discussion - Multi-Boxing. Finally. The facts. - Forum

" enshin wrote: " Wittgenstein wrote: " enshin wrote: Why the fuck are people trying to justify their cheating bullshit? FUCKING MAN UP , pussy fucks keep posting like this and I hope they remove you from alpha and block you from the forums. consider this a warning and act like a human being. Yeah, I'll save the eloquence for my PM's to chris and rest of dev team which have already been sent out, thanks for your input though. Oh...so I'm not the only one to contact support? Good. Well...who knows, maybe GGG will ban your alpha account. 'It is good to contact a moderator if you feel someone is being a twat' Charan, Forum Moderator Sometimes, we have to cross a ditch. Sometimes, we have to cross an ocean.-Rhys, GGG	Posted by Zalm#4445 on Feb 28, 2013, 7:47:48 PM Quote this Post
" fortyb4five wrote: " deakin20 wrote: I don't have an opinion on weather or weather not it is cheating but I do believe that multiboxing will become the future of gaming. It is the next step to control a whole party independently. I could do this if I could attach something to my brain that lets me act as quickly as I can think. Its the next step in gaming!!!! Embrace it. :-). Yup, the wave of the future is here. People can run full party raids when just themselfs. What joyous fun that would be. Apparently you've never played a single player RPG or any console game where you control all of your party. It's hella fun. "In short, we don't care if someone's a millionaire -- if that person plans to degrade any member of the community or act in such a way that people will feel unwelcome here, then that person can fuck right off." - Charan, GGG Volunteer Moderator	Posted by Gamer1975#0451 on Feb 28, 2013, 7:49:58 PM Quote this Post
" kiorull wrote: Multiboxing should be allowed, but when it really is multi boxing aka playing all your party at once, meaning you will need to gear every toon the same, etc. This is fair IMO, since the multiboxer while having 250%+ quantity would still need to spend it on his 6 characters. It's the same like 6 friends playing only that all loot is distributed optimally. So what I propose is simple: - for bosses: apply the party bonus only if every member delt at least 10% damage worth of the bosses life. - for normal monsters: add up all the damage the party is doing, if top dps / last dps > 4, then turn off the party bonus. This would also solve the problem with the leechers/chest runners in public parties. And who cannot do damage worth of 10% of the life of the boss has no business farming it in the first place. Multilogging needs to be stopped. Trade channel is already spammed with chaos orbs, there are people coming with 30-50 at a time stating they are willing to buy GCP, Exalted, etc. Soon Chaos Orb will devalue a lot if this practice will not be stopped. This is not "playing the game differently", this is greed in it's purest form. I would be surprised if this technique is not already massively used by botters. Awesome. One of the very, very few sensible posts on any thread about multi-boxing/logging. " So what I propose is simple: - for bosses: apply the party bonus only if every member delt at least 10% damage worth of the bosses life. - for normal monsters: add up all the damage the party is doing, if top dps / last dps > 4, then turn off the party bonus. This is a great suggestion and would calm this whole situation down almost completely. .	Posted by Alienchild#1272 on Feb 28, 2013, 7:50:36 PM Quote this Post
" Gamer1975 wrote: " fortyb4five wrote: " deakin20 wrote: I don't have an opinion on weather or weather not it is cheating but I do believe that multiboxing will become the future of gaming. It is the next step to control a whole party independently. I could do this if I could attach something to my brain that lets me act as quickly as I can think. Its the next step in gaming!!!! Embrace it. :-). Yup, the wave of the future is here. People can run full party raids when just themselfs. What joyous fun that would be. Apparently you've never played a single player RPG or any console game where you control all of your party. It's hella fun. FFVII was freaking awesome. 'It is good to contact a moderator if you feel someone is being a twat' Charan, Forum Moderator Sometimes, we have to cross a ditch. Sometimes, we have to cross an ocean.-Rhys, GGG	Posted by Zalm#4445 on Feb 28, 2013, 7:50:47 PM Quote this Post
gets the popcorn	Posted by deakin20#1906 on Feb 28, 2013, 7:51:10 PM Quote this Post
" deakin20 wrote: gets the popcorn I got the soda. 'It is good to contact a moderator if you feel someone is being a twat' Charan, Forum Moderator Sometimes, we have to cross a ditch. Sometimes, we have to cross an ocean.-Rhys, GGG	Posted by Zalm#4445 on Feb 28, 2013, 7:51:47 PM Quote this Post
" Alienchild wrote: I am 100% sure that some multi-boxers do use some forms of automation to abuse. Just as I am 100% sure that some people that don't multibox, use some form of automation to abuse. Just as I am 100% sure that some people use real money trading sites to buy POE currency and items. Abusers will abuse and they fall in every class of gaming. By the way, feels good to be having a vaguely civilised conversation with you flab! We should do this more often as I don't think our views are really that far apart. . This is where I think we need to make a bit of a distinction, botting and RMT is clearly not allowed or encouraged. I don't think the problem is really about multi-boxing abuse (just yet), the problem I think is that the underlying methods that allow for multi-boxing/accounting/whatever is leading to easy abuse. That is not to say that multi-clienting or multi-boxing is inherently abusive, but that the result of the enabling methods is prominent abuse.	Posted by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013, 7:52:00 PM
" kiorull wrote: Multiboxing should be allowed, but when it really is multi boxing aka playing all your party at once, meaning you will need to gear every toon the same, etc. This is fair IMO, since the multiboxer while having 250%+ quantity would still need to spend it on his 6 characters. It's the same like 6 friends playing only that all loot is distributed optimally. So what I propose is simple: - for bosses: apply the party bonus only if every member delt at least 10% damage worth of the bosses life. - for normal monsters: add up all the damage the party is doing, if top dps / last dps > 4, then turn off the party bonus. This would also solve the problem with the leechers/chest runners in public parties. And who cannot do damage worth of 10% of the life of the boss has no business farming it in the first place. Multilogging needs to be stopped. Trade channel is already spammed with chaos orbs, there are people coming with 30-50 at a time stating they are willing to buy GCP, Exalted, etc. Soon Chaos Orb will devalue a lot if this practice will not be stopped. This is not "playing the game differently", this is greed in it's purest form. I would be surprised if this technique is not already massively used by botters. I have to counter your two propositions, they kill dedicated, legitimate support and tanking. Also I don't even think legitimate multi-boxing is fair, you may have to gear and control 6 characters, but you get it all for yourself.	Posted by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013, 7:53:16 PM
" Zalm wrote: " deakin20 wrote: gets the popcorn I got the soda. Now we need another boy with an oversized snuggie so we can make a hell of a cuddle puddle. Last edited by deakin20#1906 on Feb 28, 2013, 7:54:01 PM	Posted by deakin20#1906 on Feb 28, 2013, 7:53:49 PM Quote this Post
" AintCare wrote: I stopped reading after that, Wiki is NOT source- I can go there and edit it myself, wtf is that suppose to prove... Same goes for every website and yet I can use them as sources for my stuff at the university. Make Spectral Throw great again	Posted by CommodoX#7313 on Feb 28, 2013, 7:54:51 PM Quote this Post