Multi-Boxing. Finally. The facts.

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enshin wrote:

Not much more needs to be said on this subject. skouros just got checkmate on all those who do this

It would be, if GGG saw it the same way. Then again, if GGG saw it the same way, we wouldnt have 18 pages of discussion over multiboxing.

Its not cheating to GGG, then its not cheating here.

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imtheshane wrote:

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valarias wrote:

Really? are you playing all 6 characters or are 5 of them naked? are you spending on perfect gear for characters you'll never use?

The answer (I don't even need you to reply) is no, you're not you're putting all that currency into a single person and thereby inflating your income, which leads to you buying overpriced items and people selling overpriced items because they will sell, thus people who don't abuse like you do at a huge disadvantage.

I'm talking about multiboxing, not multilogging. In multiboxing you gear each character you use, not funnel all drops to a single character.

Maybe you should read the discussion before chiming in?

Even with multiboxxing or multilogging the point is still relevant, you have no intention of using any but 1 of these characters at any given time and thus the majority of your income will go to a single one for the best gear.

Then you'll say "no i'm using them all", but who are you gonna use for engame content? bosses? pvp? it's all going to be that one char you overgear.

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Azidonis wrote:

Right. Now, the economy could "set and fester" for 6-10 months. That's perfectly okay, especially if new content is released around that timeframe.

But, with the way multiboxing is going, the economy won't have 6-10 months of it. It will have 2-3 months of it, and by the 6 month mark the prices will become so retarded that the only people who will be able to afford anything are the multiboxers.

Perhaps. Only time will tell in the end. I dont think there are as many multiboxers as you think. There might be a good few, but I seriously doubt there is more than 15% of the games population that is multiboxing.

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Zalm wrote:

Its not cheating to GGG, then its not cheating here.

I think by this point the issue and concern of community is very clear, and finding solution/ changing their policy on this is a major issue for them atm.

I would guess < 5% even know how to multi-box to get additional items.
Of that 5% only a small percentage would be able to actually do it.

I'd like to try and be one of those people ... if it's legal. :)

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Zalm wrote:

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Azidonis wrote:

Right. Now, the economy could "set and fester" for 6-10 months. That's perfectly okay, especially if new content is released around that timeframe.

But, with the way multiboxing is going, the economy won't have 6-10 months of it. It will have 2-3 months of it, and by the 6 month mark the prices will become so retarded that the only people who will be able to afford anything are the multiboxers.

Perhaps. Only time will tell in the end. I dont think there are as many multiboxers as you think. There might be a good few, but I seriously doubt there is more than 15% of the games population that is multiboxing.

what a funny statistic

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NaughtyOne wrote:

Does everyone seem to neglect the point that multi-boxing programs are made with the same automation tools as bots? and that these programs spawning a single keyboard stroke to all windows is done through automation?

People might be quick to defend multi-boxing but unless your going into each window manually and selecting the chars actions it is cheating.

Its not automation, its replication. I give you an understandable simile.

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imtheshane wrote:

Because in software terms they are entirely different things. Automation requires no input from the user. Replication requires user input then replicates it.

Also, automatic and manual are not binary concepts. There are varying degrees of automation.

Remember carbon paper? You'd write something, let's say a term paper, on a piece of paper with carbon paper under it and it would copy what you wrote to a second piece of paper under the carbon paper. That's replication. Automation would be something that wrote your term paper for you.

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enshin wrote:

Not much more needs to be said on this subject. skouros just got checkmate on all those who do this

No, multiBOXING does not provide you an unfair advantage. If anything it makes the game much harder to play.

MultiLOGGING is what you guys seem to be railing against. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

The difference has been explained several times, but I'll go ahead and give it a go one more time.

Multi-logging: Logging in other character in order to get more loot. These characters generally stay in one place and do nothing but provide the party loot bonuses.

# of characters in the party: 6
# of characters actively engaged in party activity: 1

Multi-boxing: Logging in multiple characters who are all active in the party, but controlled by one person.

# of characters in the party: 6
# of characters actively engaged in party activity: 6



Decry multi-logging as much as you want, just don't lump it in the same category as multiboxing. They're not the same thing.

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Zalm wrote:

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Azidonis wrote:

Right. Now, the economy could "set and fester" for 6-10 months. That's perfectly okay, especially if new content is released around that timeframe.

But, with the way multiboxing is going, the economy won't have 6-10 months of it. It will have 2-3 months of it, and by the 6 month mark the prices will become so retarded that the only people who will be able to afford anything are the multiboxers.

Perhaps. Only time will tell in the end. I dont think there are as many multiboxers as you think. There might be a good few, but I seriously doubt there is more than 15% of the games population that is multiboxing.

Well, there are people actual advertising multi-loading (the economy relevant issue) in the forum, on fansites, streams and in game. I don't think that it should be underestimated as it could hit hard. So hard that players not willing to do such a chore will get frustrated and be lost as customers forever.

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NaughtyOne wrote:

Does everyone seem to neglect the point that multi-boxing programs are made with the same automation tools as bots? and that these programs spawning a single keyboard stroke to all windows is done through automation?

People might be quick to defend multi-boxing but unless your going into each window manually and selecting the chars actions it is cheating.

This is so incorrect it's laughable. They absolutely are NOT made with the same automation tools. This is just blatant misinformation.