Multi-Boxing. Finally. The facts.

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Azidonis wrote:
Multiboxing, in any sense, will be the bane of this game. That's all there is to it.


As it is for the Diablo Series, Torchlite, WoW, GW, Rift and Terra. But they dont do anything about it, so what is GGG supposed to do?
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Sometimes, we have to cross an ocean.-Rhys, GGG
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Gamer1975 wrote:
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"If you use a program that can send your keystrokes to multiple clients at the exact same time, Is this a bannable offense?"


I've yet to see a GGG staff member say "YES" directly to this. People can point to whatever ELSE they want... but I agree that this needs to be answered directly by a paid staff member at GGG authorized to speak on their behalf.



From the TOS:



"Utilising any form of automated software in relation to your access or use of the Website, Materials or Services is prohibited"

I would certainly extend this clause to cover the service that the game is.
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Happy hunting/fishing
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Wittgenstein wrote:
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Gamer1975 wrote:
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"If you use a program that can send your keystrokes to multiple clients at the exact same time, Is this a bannable offense?"


I've yet to see a GGG staff member say "YES" directly to this. People can point to whatever ELSE they want... but I agree that this needs to be answered directly by a paid staff member at GGG authorized to speak on their behalf.



From the TOS:



"Utilising any form of automated software in relation to your access or use of the Website, Materials or Services is prohibited"

I would certainly extend this clause to cover the service that the game is.


But everyones problem that multiboxing isnt automating anything. So it isnt against the ToS
'It is good to contact a moderator if you feel someone is being a twat' Charan, Forum Moderator

Sometimes, we have to cross a ditch.
Sometimes, we have to cross an ocean.-Rhys, GGG
first of all, Multiboxing by gamers does not do much harm to the game, apart from forum witch hunt.
Its when it is used abusivly, to make real world profit, we all know what happens in D2, and worse in D3, and WoW and the list goes on...
Those multiboxers (we are talking about gamers, streamers, not farmers) even when using repeaters are still playing the game, despite how many clients they are running at once.
Its the BOT that will eventually destroy the economy.


Integrity of the game is ruined by Multiboxing?

Not reall,the game economy is ruined, when some people decide to spend real money to purchase in game item/currency thus supporting the whole "farming industry" and encourges BOTing. Or when the game itself has that on default (point at D3)

you will know when integrity of the game is ruined, starting from gamers insulting each other on the forum with no apparant reasons.

The OP posted some valid points, I am kinda in between of this Multiboxing thing, open more clients on single PC or on multiple PC or Laptop for mule, rushing Alts for Fun or whatever (when you don't want to spend money on slots) is ok to me, I do it in almost all the game, I don't see why not, when you can afford more subcription, or have more copies of the game.

Using automated script, or repeater key are the area I do not wish to touch, which is the true multiboxing. To me It kinda defeats the purpose of playing the as intended after a while.
once again, its a personal perference, I don't understand why people are so stress about the fact NOT everyone thinks alike, you don't have to agree with them, nor should you insult them.






Last edited by Eyesonme#1041 on Feb 28, 2013, 8:46:09 PM
I have seen just about every questionable gaming action defended on the forums.

This is just another example.
If I manually force each of my characters to go into the portal and I kill a boss, I still get additional free loot. Nothing I did in the above sentence was automated. Anyone could spend 10 additional seconds double-clicking a portal for their alts to hop into.


So some people are angry at the automation.
Some people are angry at the multi-logging.
Some people are angry at the additional loot.
Some people are angry at the uneven playing field.

Lots of angry people.

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my 2 cents.

After reading all the above, imo, multi-boxing is like p2p/bitorrent. p2p itself is legit, but unfortunately, most times used to download (or at least associated with) pirated contents.

As such, I don't really agree with banning multi-box (banning bitorrent).

Last edited by loboSG#7181 on Feb 28, 2013, 8:44:26 PM
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Alienchild wrote:
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kashakosha wrote:
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Alienchild wrote:
Open challenge to anyone. I will give you a 100 GBP (British Pounds) if you can multibox 6 characters to level 1-80 in hardcore. You cannot lose any one of your chars. You must complete all quests and defeat all act bosses. You must at all times be playing all 6 of your characters. This offer will expire in 1 week and you will have 2 weeks after that to complete the challenge.

You will have to stream this.

This is a serious offer and I am happy to lodge the amount with a trusted 3rd party.

Now I know all of you that think multiboxing is easy mode will jump at this as it is practically money in the bank. After all multiboxing is practically cheating it is so easy.

So c'mon let's see what you have.

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Totally pointless challenge. Why would you even want to do this?

The current multilogging is about farming low level garbage that sells well. At best it's a way to improve your high level main through currency.


EXACTLY MY POINT!!(Sorry caps) People are confusing multi-logging with multi-boxing.

multi-logging = easy
multi-boxing = very very difficult, especially in POE.

People are just not getting it.


I could probably make the money reward 1,000 pounds or 10,000 pounds. No one would be able to do it. I didn't because the offer is serious and I don't want to tie up larger amounts of cash.

multi-boxing is HARD. That is why people do it for the CHALLENGE, duh.

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I think people do get it, the problem is you are placing arbitrary rules on it that noone else will abide by, because instead, they just want to exploit things.

What if I told you I'm in the process of getting a lvl 36 character to maps so that I can solo those maps and that you should try it too to see how hard it is? Why would you care, why would you even respect that?
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Zalm wrote:
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Azidonis wrote:
Multiboxing, in any sense, will be the bane of this game. That's all there is to it.


As it is for the Diablo Series, Torchlite, WoW, GW, Rift and Terra. But they dont do anything about it, so what is GGG supposed to do?


Put a mechanic in place that removes the attraction to playing this way.

Either /players or reduce item quantity by aggregate level of player group. Something like Merveil normal-character levels 30+1+1+1+1+1= ~6 level avg for -300% item rarity and quantity.

Either implement /players or reduce drops by gigantic %s for even level the groups average is under the zone level.
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Alienchild wrote:


EXACTLY MY POINT!!(Sorry caps) People are confusing multi-logging with multi-boxing.

multi-logging = easy
multi-boxing = very very difficult, especially in POE.

People are just not getting it.



By now (after that OP post) people should get it. Though your explanation about key replication is only getting in their mind as an abuse (somewhat understandable) and spreading fear that GGG will not try to do something against multi-boxing.

It is also easy to guess that multi-logging is also not intended by game design.
Thou fixing that issue is more in the reach of GGG and I am curious how they will fix it.

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