...about PoE, scamming, its people and culture

Scammers are just silly kids. Blame the parents.

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Miská wrote:

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uroboros wrote:

Earlier looked into buying a jewel to + some damage.....
The guy linked me another jewel with a similar prefix to the one i asked for, and after already blood rushing as he was to first to answer in 6 other sellers, i took the prefix for granted and didn't check and bought in haste so others couldn't get to it before me.
After politely explaining what happened and requesting a correction, he said he sold it. The jewel i asked for is still on sale after 2h :)



I am now talking to other supporters,
Did we pay for a RPG game? Or for a game that is mostly based on trading and the most important skill is supposed to be scam avoidance?

I see a lot of people slamming others that report scams. You represent that human side called asshole.

I believe in people just being good people. You will meet that 1 moment where someone is just an asshole but there is nothing much that can be done about it honestly. In the end you should simply check what jewel is being sold to you.

I never understood how 1 bad experience can create such anger about a system that works fine 99% of the time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/7nf0bm/0_mf_300_chaos_per_hour/ lol 1 asshole?

I feel i must do anything i can to help the players around me.
If you are new player and you search something to buy 99% of the items the first ones in lists is scum. Yesterday i found a guy that has 2 pages of the same item 1c for an item second in list is 30. How hard is a new player see 2 pages of 1c price and put it 1c too. Why all of us do something to protect the new players anyway.
We report gold sellers, scammers GGG ban them but in free game no much harm for them. They make another account in the next minute. Maby a free trial of 2-3 days or maby a week that have limited access it is a good idea.
Anyway iam sure we are too many that want to help normal players. Maby a channel with free rare low price items for all those who start learn the game.
Have a nice year.
Regards John

SSF BTW.

And fuck it. If people are going to hide behind anonymity to be arseholes, I'm happy to do the same to quietly report them.

Seems fair enough.

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andreicde wrote:

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Miská wrote:

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uroboros wrote:

Earlier looked into buying a jewel to + some damage.....
The guy linked me another jewel with a similar prefix to the one i asked for, and after already blood rushing as he was to first to answer in 6 other sellers, i took the prefix for granted and didn't check and bought in haste so others couldn't get to it before me.
After politely explaining what happened and requesting a correction, he said he sold it. The jewel i asked for is still on sale after 2h :)



I am now talking to other supporters,
Did we pay for a RPG game? Or for a game that is mostly based on trading and the most important skill is supposed to be scam avoidance?

I see a lot of people slamming others that report scams. You represent that human side called asshole.

I believe in people just being good people. You will meet that 1 moment where someone is just an asshole but there is nothing much that can be done about it honestly. In the end you should simply check what jewel is being sold to you.

I never understood how 1 bad experience can create such anger about a system that works fine 99% of the time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/7nf0bm/0_mf_300_chaos_per_hour/ lol 1 asshole?

Guy(s) who take fee and never open map\don't have boss encounter active ARE DIFFERENT from "he sold me wrong item".

When you can't be safe with "300 chaos per hour" guy(s) - it is entirely OP's fault on buying "wrong item".
You need to actually hover over the item, check it, FUCKING DOUBLECHECK IT, and then press "accept" button.

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uroboros wrote:

I agree it was my mistake, would be foolish not to. The issue is he took advantage of the loose system and the character he showed even after he recognised his mistake.

WHAT LOOSE SYSTEM?
You need to hover over the item, CHECK IT, and only then press "accept".

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uroboros wrote:

i took the prefix for granted and didn't check and bought in haste

LOOSE SYSTEM?

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uroboros wrote:

I see a lot of people slamming others that report scams. You represent that human side called asshole.)

And you represent the human side called [oh, i can't say this out loud, support would put me on probation]

if you get scammed during trade window,you deserved to be scammed. Thats why scamming is a thing in the first place, because there are people who gets scammed easily

Yeah just got scamed 10c for essence challenge,i will not pay until someone actually complete it with me anymore.
It is hard to find people that do not want pay before tho.

***GGG*** and RNG challenges that you can run forever solo and not get.

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CaptainWARLORD wrote:

The only kind of scam that ever happens to me is when I'm unsure what to price an item.

I always take my time to check the item before I hit accept. It occured maybe once or twice in the 4+ years I have played that I didn't bother to check and it was my mistake for not doing so.

It's really easy to not get scammed during the trade window.

Usually, if people try to pressure you, they probably try to scam you.

This is utter BS and has everyone basically breaking out in hives when they sell anything. You have some items (usually uniques as they are all relatively the same) that have a standardized trading price. In these cases, there is always a low that is either determined by people who want a quick sale and price fixers and a ridiculous high where people just put whatever because 1) they think they found an item that costs a mirror or 2) don't want to sell it so they just put whatever the hell number because yolo.

The rest is all up in the air. Naturally you'll have items that are so GG they warrant crazy prices. Say a pair of boots with T1 rolls of life, 3 resists and 30% movement speed on a top tier base. Those aren't going to be cheap. But the rest all falls in everywhere. All you have to do is search PoET and see the variance. Even on unique stuff that's not in demand, you'll see prices from 5c to 10ex.

There is no standardized price. It's not like the real world. But this mentality, with these macros that make people believe that an item is positively worth this or that... ridiculous! If you're inflexible in this game you'll end the league with a stash tab full of useless junk that you thought you could get 50ex for...

worst case i discovered was me accidentally selling some rare boots that had the same 2 rare names (but different base type) as the item he wanted.

he accepted and i immediately got flooded with all sorts of accusations, felt like i hit some reddit kiddo on the head and it really took some effort of mine to overcome the feeling of just put that idiot on ignore.

eventually i exchanged the item and wasn't even thanked for it. that was the moment i thought i did a mistake.

wouldn't do it again probably if i'm met with hostility and called a scammer.

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plodd wrote:

Scammers are just silly kids. Blame the parents.

My son is not silly - I also blame his parents.

:)

Cheers,
Matt