How many shaper set have you wasted?

This little build to farm Shaped Strand... And this little build to farm Lab;
This little build to farm Hall of Grandmasters... and this little build for high tier maps;
And this little build goes WEEEWEEEWEEEWEEE all the way to Shaper and Uber Atziri land :)

Yeah I've wasted maybe 5 sets all up trying to beat Shaper on my Chieftain Firestormer - mostly because I built him to be Tank so I lack the damage to keep Zana alive then the purple balls eat me dead. I know all the ways I could increase his DPS but I just enjoy him being 13000 life + 8 endurance charges godmode in all maps (other than Shaper/Uber Atziri/Vaal Tample), so I stubbornly kept trying to beat Shaper on my unoptimized Tank.
It bugs me a little that I didn't down Shaper on him but then again I have another budget build that makes a mockery out of endgame Bosses... so that helped balance out my frustrations.

Anyhoot if you do come back OP best of luck with your next attempt.

I like this league too.

Now your slayer sucks for shaper is my guess he has no dps. Play molten strike.

Wasted only one before downing him the second try on my SSF character. It's just a DPS check, if you can dodge stuff. On the other hand, I'm scared shitless of uber atziri, the damage is ridiculous.

OP made some valid point & as someone that came from Diablo 3 & Grim Dawn among others (I know I know) & played for about 2 months, there are some things about combat I observed. (not meant to be negative, just observation)

There isn't some extra layer of either offense/defense to aid actual melee build (not counting sunder,frostblade or Blade Flurry etc). In D3, for instance there are say Crowd control for a short radius, which benefit melee, & the cc & proc cc based damage buff.
There is a gem with this desciption
Critical hits cause the enemy to bleed for 2500.0% weapon damage as Physical over 3 seconds.
Gain Blood Frenzy, granting you 3% increased Attack Speed for each bleeding enemy within 20 yards
SO you have a reason to go close range.


Anyway, back to PoE, for an arpg, I think there is a bit overkill of avoidance mechanic (not talking about traps) in boss fights. Sometime I though I was playing ninja Gaiden. I am mostly okay to tehse as I paly some action game myslef, but I ttally understand many people play arpg just not into these.

These advoidance mechanics disportionally affect melee. The windows to attack is much smaller, & you have to position youself better, & this was said by famous streamer Mathial himself, in on of his run against shaper.

Maybe have more passives that buff toughness/offense within melee range, it will make the game more balance.

If you people are afraid of uber atziri, then practise on the normal one by removing a bunch of support gems from your dmg setup or make sure to have enough dmg, to just roll over the uber map.

Oversoul has 500k life in the normal encounter, 2million on the uber map.
Trio 400k ->1.5m each
Atziri 1m -> 5m

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krenderke wrote:

If you people are afraid of uber atziri, then practise on the normal one by removing a bunch of support gems from your dmg setup or make sure to have enough dmg, to just roll over the uber map.

Oversoul has 500k life in the normal encounter, 2million on the uber map.
Trio 400k ->1.5m each
Atziri 1m -> 5m

Where do you get these numbers from? The map only say 100% more monster life and after 2 tries I can only say they have about 3-4 time the hp.

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patlefort3 wrote:

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krenderke wrote:

If you people are afraid of uber atziri, then practise on the normal one by removing a bunch of support gems from your dmg setup or make sure to have enough dmg, to just roll over the uber map.

Oversoul has 500k life in the normal encounter, 2million on the uber map.
Trio 400k ->1.5m each
Atziri 1m -> 5m

Where do you get these numbers from? The map only say 100% more monster life and after 2 tries I can only say they have about 3-4 time the hp.

It is also a 10 level higher area(which should at least double the base monster life), and the bosslife is kind of artifically set, or there's some maths behind it I don't want to decode, you can find the numbers on poedb.

Ah an other thing, the splitphase has probably around 100k on the normal encounter and 3-500k on the uber map, but this is a guess, because 100k DPS evaporated the splitphase on the normal map and the only builds I did uber until now were essence drainers where I did not really concentrate on watching the time, while I was dodging left and right, but it took 3-5 EDs to kill off one of the clones.

Last time I did shaper in ladder was breach. About 6.

Seems like all these end game fights take practice.

I remember when our DPS was way lower than today when atziri came out took me 6x to beat her

Same with uber.

After while its a lot easier.

If you watch really good players like mathil he can beat these bosses with total shit gear and 5L. tons upon tons of practice.

Practice makes perfect so don't look at it as "wasted" it's practice.

I'm not sure what do you mean by practice. The vaal duo is a pure gear/build check, you won't be dodging all his skills and the damage is insane.

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patlefort3 wrote:

I'm not sure what do you mean by practice. The vaal duo is a pure gear/build check, you won't be dodging all his skills and the damage is insane.

You have to wait until you get a rotation, that is not that rippy, if you just brainlessly attack, while standing in place, then it is indeed a gear/build check.

Safest bet is to bring one of them down to low hp when it spawns, then attack the other one, the key thing is you need to kill them almost at the same time, otherwise it enrages.

Topaz flask of grounding is great, so you can walk trough the balls to a safe location.

That being said not every build is good on this map, the magic monsters hit harder, than the guardians.