[3.5] Death’s Oath Occultist - Death Whisperer(CI) Updated regularly





Updates to the Build/Guide

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2/28/2018: Revamped the build guide(Things like gems, potions, gear, passives, ascendancies, pantheon,and so much more has been looked over and edited for the better). This is a buff.

3/1/2018: Added Obvious use of Enlighten for curses and auras to make gameplay functional until you have an Impresence. (Yes I should have thought of it sooner.)
General spelling and organization of tags. Might have fixed punctuation as well.

3/10/2018: Edited out Hybrid version (bad idea is bad).
Added Tier 5 Map Videos (see below).
Updated Current Gear to League Character.
Added comments about belts because Bated Breath is better.
Removed Pantheon choices (they're mainly situational anyways)
Edited Ascendancy progression.
Thinking about reworking skill trees slightly.
Thinking about adding a starter build. (could use input - I'm thinking FP until SR until DO)

3/11/2018: Added Deathless Atziri video
3/20/2018: Added Previously asked questions section to hopefully help new players with questions that might have already been answered.
3/23/2018: Removed Increased effect of curses from the build, while this is nice to have it ultimately doesn't result in too much of a difference against monsters that can actually hit you hard.
I've opted for more energy shield down by templar, in addition to filling out the Unnatural Calm wheel.
This also gives us an additional jewel socket so we can place Spreading Rot here, and replace the one by the Melding wheel with an Energy from Within for an extra 15% energy shield!
These changes have been made to both the leveling and end game build!
8/26/2018: Finally removed the not safe for beasties comment from a few leagues ago >.>
12/5/2018: Gutted the Death's Assault minion build.
Removed Conc Effect suggestion from Blight (It didn't do anything).
Arranged tree for more optimal damage, Energy Shield and Jewel Slots (7 instead of 4)
Updated Build guide for 3.5
Updated PoB for 3.5
Dropped down to one curse for 3.5
Running Vitality, Discipline and Clarity(Doesn't need to be max level) Might have space for a fourth aura.
Awaiting new crafts to update best in slot jewels.
Still running Wither to force the wither effect from Occultist passive.
Almost up to 200k Death's Oath Damage with my eh standard gear.


!!Previously Asked Questions!!
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Q: In your CI tree, why not go for Pain Attunement? Does being on 1 life permanently not activate it?
A: Correct with CI you are always at 1/1 life which will always and only count as full life. You can however achieve 0/1 life (but then you are dead).

Q: I have another classic beginner question: how on earth do you go up to 160(Think they meant 180) strength to equip Death's Oath? That's a massive amount of strength for a witch build
A: Beginning you should grab both of the +30 strength nodes by the witch which will give you +60 and another 40-50 from the armor. Which leaves needing to grab another 100 strength. You can get this between 2 rings and an amulet easily enough. You can also grab a pair of boots or gloves with a decent amount of strength on them and then put Death’s Oath on, and then remove the strength item for a higher ES item.
A2: Another Option is to use the Unique Jewel “Efficient Training” This converts Intelligence within it’s radius to strength. This option isn’t as preferred as the prior option however it is incredibly easy to do compared to it.

Q: Is Lightning warp usable here?
A: You can totally use Lightning Warp if you prefer, however it requires Less Duration, and Faster Casting to feel like a really smooth movement skill. Ideally you would be faster with just a 50-70% Quicksilver Flask.

Q: Thanks for the great build. How do your other death's oath builds compare to this one?
A: Currently I feel this is my first (because it is) and true love (I’ve put a lot of effort behind this). The damage and survivability are far superior in this specific build. The Death’s Stomper uses Abberath’s boots which makes it unique in its own way, while Death’s Alpha Hunter uses the Scourge Claw for fun wolf times. These two builds haven’t been updated to 3.2 but I might find some time soon I hope. (New job is really keeping me busy.)

Q: Have you tested faster casting in Death's Oath? I'm not sure if there's been confirmation one way or another, but the aura has a cast speed and seems to do damage more in a pulse manner than a true dot.
A: Faster Casting won’t have any effect on the skill it is either on, or off. In general Damage over Time skills do a certain about of damage over a certain amount of time. In Path of Exile the only way to increase or decrease the time applies to ignites with certain unique items, causing them to burn slower or faster. As of 3.2 There are no items that have a DoT speed up effect.

Q: Does Faminebind belt would be a good choice for your build ?
A: In short no, it won’t be a good choice of belt for the build. In long, it might be a great way to level quickly, however I’m not sure how large of an area the degen from the belt is. Also this is a Talisman League item, so it isn’t easy to come by usually.

Q: How about Abyssal Cry for faster clearing?
A: Having to constantly cast Abyssal Cry would likely be slowing you down more than speeding you up. You’re always causing Chaos Explosions which do fine.

Q: Could you explain the Efficacy/Arcane Surge/Less Duration interaction, and explain how you figure this stuff out?
A: Efficacy was always supposed to work with Death Aura, however due to a bug in 3.0 it wasn’t working as intended. However, adding Arcane surge to a skill gives it a hidden duration tag, similar to how it works with other skills. Less Duration and Swift affliction usually work with most skills that have a duration, hidden or otherwise.

Q: Also, will enduring cry (life regen) work for early level survivability? Will Enduring cry work with the zealot keystone?
A: Yes, Enduring Cry will apply the life regeneration to your ES. This effect only lasts for .75 seconds unless increased with duration increasing passives/skill gem, which could boost it to almost 1.95 seconds at max (longer for berserker but we aren’t grabbing any of these nodes so it will likely only last a second, granting you around 3-400 es regen every 4 seconds.

Q: "Death Whisperer" - means that you are using Whispering Ice..
A: Or.... Maybe it means you're whispering death and has nothing to do with a staff >.>

Q: Why do u run vitality?
A: level 20 Vitality gives 1.65% base life regeneration. With our 54% increased aura effect, this is increased to roughly 2.5% life regeneration. While it isn’t a huge amount it’s still enough to keep you alive most of the time while waiting for recharge or stacks of Vile Bastion to add up. Also with Watcher’s eye you can get flat life regeneration which is incredibly nice.


I will be League Starting with this character, you can see my progress on twitch
https://www.twitch.tv/flashercatcher


Progress Videos
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Videos from [3.0]

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Original Video explanation - https://youtu.be/GT80rMSUAgo
Tier 1 Boss Kills - https://youtu.be/PTKQec1abgw
Tier 2 Boss Kills - https://youtu.be/0v6CFG985_s
Tier 3 Boss Kills - https://youtu.be/qBlFeGsu5mE
Tier 4 Boss Kills - https://youtu.be/uoSytQowmjA
Tier 5 Boss Kills - https://youtu.be/XB6lwyiwfHg
Tier 6 Boss Kills - https://youtu.be/NH9CgKrK444
Tier 7 Boss Kills - https://youtu.be/O56k3J87jro
Tier 8 Boss Kills - https://youtu.be/5sh_BUgBhIQ
Tier 9 Boss Kills - https://youtu.be/aVT5sdClbGY
Tier 10 Boss Kills - https://youtu.be/h0ZrFh1_s9s
Tier 11 Boss Kills - https://youtu.be/yzsHk3iMwjE
Tier 11 Bazaar Map - https://youtu.be/amyuC-9JDco
Tier 11 Chateau Map - https://youtu.be/5LZQbpobto0
Tier 11 Precinct Map - https://youtu.be/6cWjTjxLLkY
Tier 11 Torture Chamber Map = https://youtu.be/bIQevdc4OEc
Tier 11 Underground Sea Map - https://youtu.be/NFcEJlo1nrw
Atziri Kill - https://youtu.be/ftw9TcK-hq4
Uber Lab Full Key - https://youtu.be/8Qm-8TrGYDc
Random PvP - https://youtu.be/oK5nDREE-fA
Untainted Paradise - https://youtu.be/jR5jBr3mSfA


Videos from [3.2]
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Tier 5 map clears. Bosses are time stamped.https://youtu.be/VUg9DTDXPfg
Deathless Atziri full clear https://youtu.be/rg9CRc57hEY

Tier 10's

Tier 15's

Guardians

3.4 Videos
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Build Mechanics



How to get the correct socket colors on your armor!



For this build to work you need to equip Death’s Oath Astral Plate.
With the release of 3.0 it now grants the Death Aura skill which does 450 chaos damage over time.
The First version is for Increased Area setup, the second one is for More Damage setup. (whichever you want)

This damage is increased by

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-Chaos Damage
-Damage Over Time
-Area Damage
-Increased Effect of Non-Curse Auras
-Non-Ailment Chaos Damage over Time Multiplier
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Increased Effect of Non-Curse Auras affects the base damage of 450 with 54% Increased Effect of Non-Curse Auras this damage is increased to 693 with a ((base aura radius of 55) This radius might be wrong because I can curse enemies before they start to degen, which implies that the radius is smaller, or I'm just bad at math))
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(88) with just Increased Area of Effect Support,(74) with Increased Area of Effect Support and Concentrated Effect Support and (66) with Just Concentrated Effect Support.




Skill Gems

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Death Aura
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Arcane Surge provides Deaths Oath with a "hidden" duration tag allowing it to benefit from both Swift Affliction and Less Duration.
You can run this setup with the first four gems, Swift Affliction will not work without Arcane Surge. You can get 6 off colors easier with the vorici crafting method, There is a video further down explaining how.
If you prefer more damage and don't care as much about screen wide coverage leave the last socket red and insert Less Duration


Blight(gloves)
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Removed Conc Effect because I'm dumb and it hasn't worked since 3.1 or something.


Wither Setup /CWDT - Immortal Call (boots)Can remove wither setup after getting uber lab
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Faster Casting and Increased Duration are not mandatory if you need gem slots.


Curse Setup (helm) Likely dropping down to one curse for better helmet options.
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Suggested : Heretic's Veil if you do not have a CHAOS Impresence (yes it's expensive)
Note : Using Heretic's Veil will prevent you from getting 10% increased curse effect from a 20% Blasphemy
Note-2 : Enlighten is used with Heretic's Veil. (if you don't have a CHAOS Impresence.)


Aura Setup (weapon or shield)
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(You'll want a level 3 Enlighten, I'm bad at Vaaling)
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To really make these two auras shine you'll need Watcher's Eye with CLarity % mana gained as ES and Discipline Faster start of recharge. (This combination won't be cheap with it only dropping from The Elder.


Movement Setup (Weapon or shield) + Rallying Cry
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Walking, but you can also use.


Defense Setup (boots)
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Full power Blight vs Blight CWC ES
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Okay so I did some math for Blight full power vs Blight + cwc ed.


Blight full power does roughly 21.7k with 5 casts per second.

Blight with CWC ED does roughly 10.6k with 5 casts per second.
ED casts almost 3 times(so I mathed for 3 at 6.2k per hit((18.6k dps)
ED Degen does roughly 24k dps
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With this current math

Full power blight at 5 stacks does roughly 108k dps

Blight with CWC ED does 94k dps

Note: This is 5 stacks (or roughly how many casts per second)
((If you multiply this by 4 you have full stacks of blight))


ED will also regen you .5% of damage -- ((This comes out to roughly 121 regen))


Control modifiers:
(15 stacks of wither)
(Shaper resist and curse effectiveness)


Gems used:
Blight - Void Manipulation, Swift Affliction, Controlled Destruction, Efficacy.
Blight CWC ED - Essence Drain, Cast while Channel, Swift Affliction, Efficacy.


Reason for using Swift affliction and Efficacy over controlled destruction and void manipulation.
Void Manipulation maxes out at 39% more damage, where Swift Affliction, Efficacy and Controlled Destruction max out at 44% more damage. (Could have swapped Controlled Destruction with Swift Affliction for same results.)



Passive Skill Tree

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Note: Hybrid is great for leveling until you get enough Energy shield to go CI. My attempt at creating a hybrid build backfired on me with being unable to recharge most of the time where as when you are immune to chaos damage the degen from Death's oath doesn't interfere with your recharge.


Level 45 Tree (1 ascend)

Level 62 - CI
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http://poeurl.com/cam5
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This is when you'll put the armor on. If you have a decent amount of chaos res you can forgo using CI/ZO for a few more levels. However this tree isn't catered to life builds.

Level 100 CI
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If you're Progressing from the level 62 tree be sure to fill out the last 2 aura nodes and then focus on grabbing the remaining ES and jewel nodes If you're just jumping straight to the 100 tree then I suggest pathing to the aura and chaos damage nodes first while grabbing some es along the way.

http://poeurl.com/b9Jx Updated for 3.5 Copy the link and click on import tree at the bottom of Path of Building, paste the link there and go.

Pastebin Link for those who don't like importing Trees ) https://pastebin.com/XiiBANi3 (




Jewels

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x2 This will increase your damage by 50% total which makes bosses and other slightly harder monsters die quicker.

If you don't generally deal with bosses and are looking for quick map clears look for jewels with a combination of % increased ES and % increased chaos,area,dot,damage jewels.

New jewels should have Non-Ailment Chaos damage multiplier (probably amazing to get)

Watcher's Eye (Clairty % mana gained as ES and Discipline faster start of recharge)

An Alternative to the Watcher's Eye Would be

While this jewel is no where near as good, it is great until you can get an Impresence Amulet (chaos)

This Jewel will increase the base damage slightly, while also making your other auras stronger as well.


Bandit Choice

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Kill all bandits, bandits is bad people.


Ascendancy

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1. Wicked Ward (Extra max ES, very nice recharge.)
2. Vile Bastion (Extra max es, STUN IMMUNE (It's in caps because this is nice), ES Regen on kill)
3. Void Beacon ( -20 chaos resist and 100% reduced life regen to nearby enemies)
4. Withering Presence (60 chaos res(not important because we're CI) +20% non-ailment chaos damage over time multiplier, passive wither totem effect and nearby hindered enemies deal 15% reduced damage over time)


Suggested Potions Need to update for 3.5
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Current Gear
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3.4 Delve
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Previous League
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Pantheon Choices

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Whatever you feel like, these are entirely situational and have little impact on game play.
However the Soul of Abberath and the captured soul will make burning ground and ignite maps smoother to play in because these would generally interrupt our ES Recharge.


Complete List of FlasherCatcher Builds

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Death's Stomper - Death's Oath Berserker https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1990590
Death Whisperer - Death's Oath Occultist https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1966637
Death Alpha Hunter - Death's Oath Necromancer https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1987818
Storm Chaser - Charged Dash CWC Glacial Caster (featuring Rippling Thoughts) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1987921
Last edited by FlasherCatcher on Dec 6, 2018, 5:40:27 PM
Last bumped on Dec 10, 2018, 6:26:44 AM
Hey Everyone! Have the boss videos completed up to Tier 5 bosses! This build doesn't really struggle currently until the later tiers however I'm working on improving and hopefully expanding my map pools. I'll be working on tiers 6 - 7 next and hopefully further than that if I can get a decent amount of different maps. Will probably have to buy them.
Neat idea, didn't even see the change to the chest piece in 3.0

To be honest, I wanna try this out! Adding to the listing.
I also noticed that your gloves . I saw that the death's oath aura cannot be affected by more than 3 skill gems according to the wiki. Would you consider linking more of your gear or jewels for others that wish to follow your guide / progress?

Cheers
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Last edited by Kwitch on Aug 22, 2017, 6:41:51 PM
Awesome thanks! I've been having a really great time with this build so far, but trying to expand to other less known builds to try to shine some light on other fun ideas!
Atziri kill uploaded, you can check it out up top or here! https://youtu.be/ftw9TcK-hq4
How about using Ebers Unification for Void Gaze triggering? -10% chaos ressistance when you use a skill to enemies... also what about Atziri Flask and 2% chaos dmg leeched as life? That works only on hit or? Doesnt apply to chaos over time damage?

Seems like a fun idea, might give it a go for next character :D
Eber's Unification would work for starting out However we're already losing a lot of ES from using an armor chest. I haven't seen the skill yet though so I might need to buy one and see how well it performs. However for atziri flask, 2% leech would be great and it would probably replace warlords mark however I don't have one of those yet either if the uptime and performance is better than warlords mark I don't see a reason to use that anymore
Uber Lab video uploaded! Also testing whether or not I even need the leech from WLM and Ghost Reaver. If not then we can just run Temp Chains or Enfeeble and save 2 skill points!
yea if Atziri could work you could theoretically remove 1 added curse from the tree and replace it with 20% effective curse node cluster underneath Mana Hp regen near scion, cluster i 1 point away that you should level or save somewhere. I really like the idea, tinkering with the concept of also maybe using a scion Occultist/Trickster for 50% increased life regen recovery on dot kills and easier branching for life regen nodes. Also are you being frozen with ES setup without axioum?

Have you thought about using Winterheart amulet? 20% life regen when frozen, with trickster thats like 30% and I also need like 4 points to get to unweavering, doubt I will be having much evasion anyway.

Either way I am sure I will go one way or another and give you some feedback, really like the idea of the build as Death Oath build is something I have been wanting to do for a long long time. xD glad it got revamped finally.

Also I see you are struggling with ES pool, thats why I am thinking of maybe doing a Hybrid build with Life/ES and Esh's Visage for Chaos does not bypass ES if not on low life or mana. A lot of theorycraft behind this one, thanks for providing some structure to the substance :D needs more tinkering for sure, but the concept is awesome!
Last edited by dezignedelic on Aug 24, 2017, 10:07:03 AM
Hey Definitely welcome! I know 6.5k es currently at level 89 isn't a huge amount, once I get the last couple of es nodes I should be close to 7.5k. Dropping down to just vulnerability would definitely save me 3 points, in addition to dropping ghost reaver. Going scion is an interesting idea, I'm currently play/testing with a champion to be a bit more tanky and as a life base (currently in the process of rerolling while I work on a different build concept) The ultimate reason I went as an Occultist though is Void Beacon(reduces enemies chaos dmg by 20%) and Profane Bloom(20% chance cursed enemies explode - Cursed enemies take 10% increased damage). However Vile Bastion and Wicked Ward help a bunch with general clearing and a quick step out to recharge and then run back in with 4 seconds of recharge.

In regards to the being frozen and stunned part I generally run with an eye of Chayula as well as a dream fragments ring, go figure I took it off and was then killed by Haast. I'll most likely drop the second curse and run a purity of elements from now on for ele weakness maps.

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