[3.2] For Scion - Ngamahu's Flame Cyclone (Uber Lab Runner, End Game Viable as Slayer & Raider)

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This build is a spin off from the Slayer version.

Kudos to @Ezevade's tweak (from Elementalist to Raider and +1 Frenzy charge) to the build, the build is now final.

I have been testing Scion class in patch 3.0 and since a number of players have asked me if Slayer version will work for Scion. Here it is.

The following information should be enough for people who want to farm Uber lab all day long as a Scion.

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Uber Lab Clear
Thank you @ezevade for providing the Uber Lab screenshot.

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The Uber lab run was made using gears moved over from his Slayer character (except the rings, his character level is too low to equip them).

At level 70, Scion's Cyclone damage is already at the same level as his level 90 Slayer.

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Videos of T16+ Map Clear By @Ezevade
Thank you @ezevade for providing guardian kill videos!

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Scion was level 80 when these videos were made.

Chimera Boss Full Run

Minotaur Boss Kill

Phoenix Boss Kill

Hydra Boss Kill

Video of Deathless Shaper Kill By @Ezevade
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NOTE: Phase 3 fight is completed without relying on Ancestral Warchief's Culling Strike.

Pastebin profile for his Shaper kill setup.

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Offense Stats

Cyclone Damage: Golem + Herald of Ash Only
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Cyclone Damage: Golem + Herald of Ash + Wise Oak + Taste of Hate + Lion's Roar + Dying Sun + Warchief + Blood Rage (Full combo without Frenzy charges)
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Molten Burst: Golem + Herald of Ash Only
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Defense Stats
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Required Gears
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Free Molten Burst that does impressive damage with huge AOE granting high clear speed. Requires 0 link. You just want to pop support gems into this weapon to buff Molten Burst.

Recommended Gears
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Setup 1: Xoph's Blood + Watcher's Eye (Most Damage Output)

Detail Explanation
Xoph's Blood 20% increased fire damage taken, mob slowed by 20%, health, more strength = more life. End game amulet for this build.

Watcher's Eye provides very good damage boost to the build when you run Anger aura.

Tombfist with Curse Enemies with Level 10 - 12 Elemental Weakness On Hit allows you to drop Flammability curse.

Special Thanks

To @JrFryta for suggesting the use of corrupted Tombfist.

To @adlrus for linking Watcher's Eye.

NOTE: Watcher's Eye is optional.

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Setup 2: Impresence + Watcher's Eye

If you are not able to afford Xoph's Blood, the following amulets are great alternative:


Detail Explanation
Impresence 0% mana reservation enabling you to use another aura (i.e. Anger) and pick Without Xoph's Blood skill tree listed in Leveling Skill Trees section.

Watcher's Eye provides very good damage boost to the build when you run Anger aura.

Special Thanks

To @sm0ke52 for linking Impresence.

Pre Patch 3.1

NOTE:
- You can kill Shaper even without Xoph's Blood!
- Watcher's Eye is optional.


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Provides very good damage boost to the build when you run Anger aura.

If you are not able to obtain the above stats, prioritize "Gain #% physical damage as extra fire damage while affected by Anger".

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Provides attack speed, movement speed, dexterity and chaos resistance.

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Up to 50% increased Cyclone damage, 25% increased attack speed, 10% increased movement speed. You can run with 5L. Main drawback is the lack of defense stats.

Bronn's Lithe provides great damage buff to the build. Thanks to @Lunartuna for testing it out.

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20% more AOE radius, great clear speed, comes with all resist and decent life. You can run with 5L.

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Belly's large life pool couple with Windscream's +1 curse (for Enfeeble), you can easily reach effective life pool of 8300. Great setup when you are focused on leveling.

Cons: You have to skip hexproof maps as curse do not work on the mobs.

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Similar to Belly + Windscream, Cospri's Will with Enfeeble works great for leveling and your curses work in hexproof maps too.

Cons: Lower effective life pool as compared to Belly + Windscream combo

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29% chance to gain endurance charge on kill. A lazy man approach to gain endurance charges without self casting Enduring Cry.

This jewel is pure luxury.

You socket the jewel near Barbarism node as shown:

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Special thanks to @Metallicalf for pointing out that you don't have to pick Diamond Skin to benefit from it.

Recommended Rares
Gloves - Titan Gauntlets Preferred
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- At least 75 life (can roll over 100 life in patch 3.0)
- At least 10% Attack Speed
- At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped)
- Intelligence (optional. if you need it to equip gears)

Belt - Rustic or Vanguard Belt Preferred
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- At least 75 life
- At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist
- At least 20% Elemental Damage With Attacks
- At least 300 armor (optional but highly recommended)

Rings - Opal or Steel Rings Preferred
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- At least 40 life (60+ preferred)
- At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped)
- At least 20% Fire damage (optional, can be crafted using Essence of Anger)
- At least 20% Elemental Damage With Attacks (optional but highly recommended)
- Flat physical damage roll (optional but recommended)

Boots - Titan Greaves Preferred
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- At least 75 life (can roll over 100 life in patch 3.0)
- At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped)
- At least 15% movement


Gems Setup

Ngamahu's Flame (Do NOT require 6L)


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Swap Elemental Focus to Chance to Ignite for ignite damage over time.

My personal preference will be to run Ignite on Axe and Elemental Focus on Cyclone.

Thanks to @redviles for suggesting the use of Elemental Focus.

Thanks to @_Tiem for suggesting Chance to Ignite to gem swap with Elemental Focus for ignite damage over time setup.

4/5/6L Chest

3R 2B 1G (Highest Damage) - Very Hard to Obtain on Bronn's Lithe
4L
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Thanks to @Lemmji for suggesting the use of Elemental Focus gem instead of Faster Attack for more damage output.

For 4/5L, you can switch Melee Physical to Fortify gem for more defense.

For 6L, you can switch Added Fire Damage to Fortify gem for more defense.

5L
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Replace with Concentrated gem for boss fight.

6L
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2R 2B 2G - Easier to Obtain on Bronn's Lithe
4L
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You can switch Melee Physical to Fortify gem for more defense.

5L
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Replace with Concentrated gem for boss fight.

6L
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Helm / Gloves / Boots

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You can replace Lightning Golem with Fire Golem. Personally I use Lightning Golem because I switch the gem for Enfeeble when I use Cospri's Will chest for leveling.

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Use Leap Slam to Proc Fortify.

For permanent Fortify, you can replace Added Fire Damage in Chest slot with Fortify gem.

Flasks Setup
Recommended Flask Setup
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Anti-bleed for life flask
Anti-freeze for Quick Silver flask


IMPORTANT: To run this setup, ensure your overcapped fire resistance is at least 50% higher than overcapped cold resistance and highest among all resistances.

E.g. Fire Resist: 159, Cold Resist: 109, Lightning Resist: 109
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Anti-bleed for life flask
Anti-freeze for Quick Silver flask

Budget Flask Setup
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Anti-bleed for life flask
Anti-freeze for Quick Silver flask
Anti-curse for Granite flask
Add knockback for Basalt flask


Uber Lab Setup
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Anti-bleed for life flask 1
Anti-freeze for life flask 2
Anti-bleed for Quick Silver flask
Anti-curse for Granite flask
Add knockback for Basalt flask


Hit a few mobs so that overleech from Slayer is activated. Hit quick silver flask (with anti-bleed) and run through traps.

Use Soul of Ryslatha pantheon for free life flask charges.

If you run into mana issues (i.e. no mana regen maps), you can replace quick silver with mana pot:


Abyssal Jewels (Patch 3.1)
Stats to look out for:
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- 25 to 50 flat life (prefix)
- Add 7 to 12 flat physical damage to axe (prefix)
- Add 15 to 40 flat fire damage (suffix)
- Add 4 to 8 flat physical damage (suffix)
- 2% elemental resistance penetration if you have not kill recently (suffix)
- #% increased damage against abyssal monsters (suffix)

For highest damage output (all situation):
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- 25 to 50 flat life (prefix)
- Add 7 to 12 flat physical damage to axe (prefix)
- Add 15 to 40 flat fire damage (suffix)
- 2% elemental resistance penetration if you have not kill recently (suffix)

For highest damage output (for abyss):
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- 25 to 50 flat life (prefix)
- Add 7 to 12 flat physical damage to axe (prefix)
- Add 15 to 40 flat fire damage (suffix)
- #% increased damage against abyssal monsters (suffix)

Jewels Setup
Stats to look out for:

- Increased attack speed %
- Physical damage %
- Fire damage %
- Increased projectile damage %
- Max life %
- Damage over time % (ignite skill tree only)
- Chance to ignite % (ignite skill tree only)
- Critical strike chance % (Acuity version only)
- Resistance (if you are missing)
- Intelligence (if you are missing)

Samples:

Pros & Cons
Pros
- Can do Uber Lab with just the axe and a 5L chest
- Slayer provide overleech, with a Quick Silver flask of anti-bleed, you will be able to simulate Slayer's Brutal Fervour on Scion.
- You will be able to clear Uber Lab by level 75
- 5 jewel sockets

Cons
- Leveling to level 55 could be a chore but from there onward it is a breeze
- Requires some refund points to respec the tree as you progress higher in your level
- Rely on Vaal Pact for survival, thus losing the life regen but overleech from Slayer makes up for it
- Can't do no life no mana leech map
- Requires linking Fortify gem to Leap Slam and using Leap Slam to proc instead (unless you swap Added Fire Damage gem in chest slot with Fortify for permanent fortify)

Leveling Skill Trees

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Huge shout out to @Ezevade for pushing this build to endgame!

The skill trees has been adjusted based on his feedback and adjustments and Raider is now the preferred choice instead of Elementalist.

Skill Tree - Level 25: poeplanner.com | pathofexile.com

Skill Tree - Level 55: poeplanner.com | pathofexile.com

With Xoph's Blood
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Skill Tree - Level 75: poeplanner.com | pathofexile.com

Skill Tree - Level 90: poeplanner.com | pathofexile.com

Skill Tree - Level 95: poeplanner.com | pathofexile.com

Without Xoph's Blood
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Skill Tree - Level 75: poeplanner.com | pathofexile.com

Skill Tree - Level 90: poeplanner.com | pathofexile.com

Skill Tree - Level 95: poeplanner.com | pathofexile.com

IMPORTANT: For both With and Without Xoph's Blood skill trees, you will start to link the bottom section of the tree up when you reach level 75. Once you have the bottom section linked, you can re-spec into level 90 skill trees.

Ascendancy

Duelist Ascendancy (Slayer) -> Ranger Ascendancy (Raider) -> Path of the Duelist (3 passive points)

Pantheon System
The powers provided by the major and minor gods are situation based. You can switch them in your hideout before engaging boss of certain map.

For general mapping and Uber Lab:
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Soul of Brine King (Major God) - Stun immunity for 2 seconds if you have been stunned. 50% reduced chill effect. Also great for maps with chilling ground effect

Soul of Ryslatha (Minor God) - Life flask gain 3 charges every 3 seconds

For Shaper:
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Soul of Brine King (Major God) - 50% reduced chill effect. Also great for maps with chilling ground effect

Soul of Yugul (Minor God) - 5% reduced cold damage taken if you have been hit recently

For Uber Atziri
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Soul of Solaris (Major God) - 20% chance to take 50% less area damage, 8% reduced Elemental Damage taken if you haven't been Hit Recently

Soul of Abberath (Minor God) - 5% reduced fire damage taken while moving

For Minotaur Guardian
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Soul of Solaris (Major God) - 20% chance to take 50% less area damage, Take no Extra Damage from Critical Strikes if you have taken a Critical Strike Recently

Soul of Gruthkul (Minor God) - Up to 5% physical damage reduction

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Soul of Ryslatha (Minor God) - Life flask gain 3 charges every 3 seconds

For Phoenix Guardian
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Soul of Solaris (Major God) - 20% chance to take 50% less area damage, 8% reduced Elemental Damage taken if you haven't been Hit Recently

Soul of Abberath (Minor God) - 5% reduced fire damage taken while moving

For Hydra Guardian
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Soul of Brine King (Major God) - 50% reduced chill effect. Also great for maps with chilling ground effect

Soul of Garukhan (Minor God) - 5% chance to evade attack and more movement speed

For Chimera Guardian
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Soul of Arakaali (Major God) - 5% reduction to damage over time taken and more chaos resistance

Soul of Ralakesh (Minor God) - 25% reduced physical damage over time taken while moving

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Soul of Ryslatha (Minor God) - Life flask gain 3 charges every 3 seconds


Lab Enchantments
Helm
- 30% Increased Flammability Curse Effect (thanks to @khoi14021993 for the highlight)
- 15% increased Cyclone Attack Speed
- 40% increased Cyclone Damage
- 30% reduced Herald of Ash Mana Reservation

Gloves
- Attack with Commandment of Fury on Hit

WARNING: Gloves enchantment on Spike Gloves will lose the melee damage

Boots
- 16% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've Killed Recently
- Damage Penetrates 10% of Enemy Elemental Resistances if you haven't Killed Recently
- 0.6% of Damage Leeched as Life and Mana if you've Killed Recently
- Adds 45 to 68 Fire Damage if you've Killed Recently
- 120% increased Critical Strike Chance if you haven't Crit Recently (only for Elemental Overload skill tree)

Bandits

Kill All for 2 Passives

Crafting
You can find various crafting options below (displayed in order of importance, top being most important, bottom being least important):

Gloves: Titan Gauntlets (preferred for lab enchantment), Spiked Gloves
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Essence of Zeal - Add attack speed
Essence of Spite - more intelligence (if you needed it)

Rings: Steel, Opal, Two Stone / Prismatic (for more resist)
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Essence of Hysteria - 10% physical as extra fire damage
Essence of Zeal - Add attack speed
Essence of Anger - #% increased fire damage
Essence of Contempt - Add # - # physical damage
Essence of Spite - more intelligence (if you needed it)

Belt: Vanguard, Rustic, Leather, Heavy
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Essence of Dread - More armour
Essence of Hysteria - 5% elemental penetration on flask
Essence of Spite - more intelligence (if you needed it)

Frequently Asked Questions
Please refer to Slayer's version of FAQ. Most of what is written there applies to Scion too.

Change Logs

EDIT 1: Updated 4L gems. Removed Blood Rage and added Culling Strike to Ancestral Warchief + Leap Slap setup.
EDIT 2: Added Uber Lab screenshot contributed by @ezevade and a new Recommended Rares section
EDIT 3: Added T16 guardian videos made by @Ezevade
EDIT 4: Added video of Deathless Shaper kill by @Ezevade and updated skill tree based on his input
EDIT 5: Added @Ezevade's offense and defense stats for his Shaper kill into Shaper Video section
EDIT 6: Updated skill tree for patch 3.1
EDIT 7: Updated gems section + abyssal jewels section to match Slayer version of the build.
EDIT 8: Updated flasks section for patch 3.1
Last edited by kira1414 on Mar 1, 2018 1:13:01 AM
Last bumped on Mar 30, 2018 1:06:14 PM
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First One hah.
Nice to see your new Build Guide.
I like your slayer version alot.
Scion version looks good so far, too.

I enjoy your builds hope we get more :)
GL HF
I'm using your slayer build currently in Harbinger. I may give this one at try too, since I have most of the gear already :)

Any pastebin link? Or a Character using the build we can import to path of building?


thanks!
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Completed 6 ChallengesEl1teStyle wrote:
First One hah.
Nice to see your new Build Guide.
I like your slayer version alot.
Scion version looks good so far, too.

I enjoy your builds hope we get more :)
GL HF

Thank you. :)

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Krodah wrote:
I'm using your slayer build currently in Harbinger. I may give this one at try too, since I have most of the gear already :)

Any pastebin link? Or a Character using the build we can import to path of building?

thanks!

I do not have the paste bin data for this build but what you can do is import your own Slayer profile into PoB and then follow by the skill tree of this Scion version. :)
Can i use voidheart version for this build?
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Last edited by Obi104A on Aug 17, 2017 12:52:16 AM
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Completed 11 ChallengesObi104A wrote:
Can i use voidheart version for this build?

You can use Voidheart as long as you are not running Avatar of Fire (or using Xoph's Blood).

The skill tree to use for Voidheart will be the same skill tree as Xoph's Blood but without Xoph's Blood amulet.

I would recommend you to go for Avatar of Fire skill tree if you do not yet own Xoph's Blood amulet because AoF gives better damage as compared to Voidheart. You will need to re-spec your skill tree when you get your hands on Xoph's Blood.
For one who haven't tested the slayer build and want to test this out. What would you recommend using, Slayer or Scion? Pros / cons?

Thanks!
A mouse!
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I can afford both but can't decide between Brons and Carcass, do you think carcass would win out since it buffs the balls more vs cyclone dmg on brons? Chroming will be an adventure of its own LOL

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