Act 10 Kitava fight is absolutely stupid

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Xavathos wrote:

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TheLiberation wrote:

Ah, here we go, the classic "didn't read but git gud".

In case you haven't noticed, most complaints here are not because of his raw damage (which is actually surprisingly bearable for the most part, Innocence in Act 5 is relatively far more brutal for instance, but his skills are actually well-telegraphed), but because the way the fight is implemented is poor and punishes you even if you try to think and see how he works.

Some of his skills are almost invisible (the most common complaint I've seen everywhere on the forum, which means people KNOW they need to dodge the skills...), his fire breath covers 95% of the battle arena which is near-impossible to dodge even with mobile builds and a fast reaction time, and his minions are absurdly overtuned, with no way to escape them or be tactical with such a small arena.

And seriously, I don't know in what alternative dimension you have to live in not to notice the fight is at least a +50% difficulty spike compared to anything before, and far harder than at least the first 5-6 tiers of maps bosses.

Well, first of all, hi. I'm not new to this thread or the forums, I have actually read everything and my opinion is still the same.

I never denied the difficulty spike, but +50% on a walk in the park is still only a jog at most. It's really not hard to me and I'm not even good at the game. You're welcome to dislike my opinion, because yours obviously differs from me, but it would be better if you respected mine, like I do yours. Yeah?

I like Kitava, because unlike ANY of the other content the game offers, Kitava gives you a taste of what end-game bossing feels like. Something I'm guessing you haven't ever done yet, or you'd probably see the value in the (harsh) lessons taught by the fight.

PoE doesn't hold your hand, it doesn't protect you from harm, it doesn't pamper you and give you second chances. It pushes you right on the edge and forces you to adapt or fall. That's the game. Everyone experiences that when they play their first character. A brick wall with no way across, around or through. You failed. Start over.

The game isn't unfair though. Everything is more than doable, with the right amount of time, currency, experience and dare I say, skill involved, you can do it all. And therein lies the problem...

Do I say "git gud" literally? No, of course not, but the message remains the same and you just don't want to hear it because it's true. That's a classic.

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Cyderic wrote:

... IT IS INSANE. You stand there with molten strike, life gain on hit and all these mobs and you think "I should be safe with 3k life and molten strike LGoH" and BAM!! Instant death!

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3k life is really not that much for ACT 10 in HC, surely not enough to safely face tank Kitava.
Before 3.0 it was a common advice to stack around 300 life per ACT to be in the safe zone at the end of the story... 300x12 = 3600, you would be in shortage of life even for pre 3.0.

My advice in 3.0 is to consider more or less 400 per ACT... for a total of around 4000 at the end of ACT 10.
You can surely beat Kitava with a lot less than that... but if your plan is to stay in front of him, hit hard and facetank all his attacks you need that much.

If you really lost 5 or 6 char during that fight you should have learnt this.

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TheLiberation wrote:

Your attitude from third paragraph onwards should explain to you why I react to you like this.

If you also actually read my reply, you'd know I also said that Kitava is far harder than any boss on at least the several first tiers of maps. Never had the time to go past tier 6 for now in any playthrough (some people have, you know, a life), but even T6 bosses are hilariously easy compared to Kitava (or the bad joke that Merciless Malachai was previously), which is awful balance and design.

As for the rest, you're clearly missing the point completely and you're totally out of touch with what the difficulty feels like for 90% of players. Nothing about your "message" is true, you just present the classic "git gud" attitude of ignoring an obvious problem just because you can get around it by spending dozens of hours overleveling or grinding enough currency, which means you have no idea what good balance or good design is.

And last point: no, this fight does not reward skill in the current state, at all. The main issue is that most damage is unavoidable. Something you'd know if you actually read the posts.

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Cyderic wrote:

Thanks for the reply. Yes it seems I don't had enough life but tbh I didn't know how to get even more life. With this char I really focused on life nodes first but at some point I had to took at least some damage nodes also.
And I had 6 (I think) endu charges up with him...

I think my armour was quite good also. My belt alone gave me more than 100 life.

I find it unfair to be forced to trade even more...it feels like you have to trade with other players to really get a kind of "cutting edge" armour for this level in order to be able to fave Kitava as melee.