The Son of God:

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cipher_nemo wrote:

" If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.

If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.

That is why the world hates you.

Remember what I told you: ' A servant is not greater than his master. '

If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.

They will treat you this way because of my name,
for they do not know the one who sent me. "

- John 15:18-21 [NIV]

This entire thread is proof of Jesus' words.

Gaming communities in general are atheist or agnostic at best, and downright satanic at worst. That's a given us Christians deal with all the time, and you know what, we're ok with that. Well, at least those who truly are Christian do. In fact, we're commanded to go out into the world, among pagans, and spread His message of peace and love. We know many don't believe in God at all, and others mock even the idea of Him. For Christians, we're not the ones responsible for "converting" people, we're the ones bringing the message, and whether or not others want to listen is not our real concern. Every human on Earth has free will to make that choice for themselves.

On a personal note, I was agnostic until 28. I even mocked the idea of Jesus back then. Was proud of my agnostic beliefs, and even dabbled in Taoism philosophies. These days, I'm so thankful for my faith and being rescued by God. For those who don't believe, you'll never understand, and that's ok. But if you were ever curious about God, or even just my own personal conversion, feel free to PM me.

Feel free to debate my words, take a jab at my post, etc., but I won't argue with you on this thread. :-) Everyone has their own beliefs, or lack of them.

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cipher_nemo wrote:

In fact, we're commanded to go out into the world, among pagans, and spread His message of peace and love.

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cipher_nemo wrote:

Feel free to debate my words, take a jab at my post, etc., but I won't argue with you on this thread. :-) Everyone has their own beliefs, or lack of them.

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cipher_nemo wrote:

Feel free to debate my words, take a jab at my post, etc., but I won't argue with you on this thread. :-) Everyone has their own beliefs, or lack of them.

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kuukkeli wrote:

Could you please explain why I should worship a being that has created billions of people only to send them to everlasting torment in a lake of fire? Omniscient creator is responsible for all the choices his creations do so each and every man god sent to hell never had any chance to avoid that fate. If I believed in your god I'd be at war with him.

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kuukkeli wrote:

If I believed in your god I'd be at war with him.

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Kamchatka wrote:

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kuukkeli wrote:

Could you please explain why I should worship a being that has created billions of people only to send them to everlasting torment in a lake of fire? Omniscient creator is responsible for all the choices his creations do so each and every man god sent to hell never had any chance to avoid that fate. If I believed in your god I'd be at war with him.

You will have to find a follower of John Calvin to answer this question; since Catholics, Orthodox Christians and most protestants do not subscribe to this type of belief about God.

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Darkfyre wrote:

That's like if a single ant were to say "I'm at war with the universe", only probably more absurd than even that analogy.

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cipher_nemo wrote:

" If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.

If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.

That is why the world hates you.

Remember what I told you: ' A servant is not greater than his master. '

If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.

They will treat you this way because of my name,
for they do not know the one who sent me. "

- John 15:18-21 [NIV]

This entire thread is proof of Jesus' words.

Gaming communities in general are atheist or agnostic at best, and downright satanic at worst. That's a given us Christians deal with all the time, and you know what, we're ok with that. Well, at least those who truly are Christian do. In fact, we're commanded to go out into the world, among pagans, and spread His message of peace and love. We know many don't believe in God at all, and others mock even the idea of Him. For Christians, we're not the ones responsible for "converting" people, we're the ones bringing the message, and whether or not others want to listen is not our real concern. Every human on Earth has free will to make that choice for themselves.

On a personal note, I was agnostic until 28. I even mocked the idea of Jesus back then. Was proud of my agnostic beliefs, and even dabbled in Taoism philosophies. These days, I'm so thankful for my faith and being rescued by God. For those who don't believe, you'll never understand, and that's ok. But if you were ever curious about God, or even just my own personal conversion, feel free to PM me.

Feel free to debate my words, take a jab at my post, etc., but I won't argue with you on this thread. :-) Everyone has their own beliefs, or lack of them.

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Darkfyre wrote:

Hey, if you're looking to me to prove to you that God exists, then sorry but you're going to be disappointed. Not my job. My job is simply to provide you with the information, with what I know and with what will best influence you to investigate the matter for yourself. Remember free will? In the end you make the final decision. As Christians it's our job to ensure that you have all the information you need to make an informed one, and if possible to help influence you to make the right one. Whether you accept that, or what you do with that information is up to you. Only God can work in the heart of a person to affect true change.