We need a USABLE alchemy recipe

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mezmery wrote:

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DurianMcgregor wrote:

Alchemy orbs are already cheap and plentiful enough. Just vendor rares and bad uniques and you get plenty.

no, you dont. even for alcing maps, not talking about ilvl 80+ jewelry

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Mr_Cee wrote:

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jhnsmth wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

The most standard currency used for trading is chaos, usually.

Of course, chaos is easy to get because:
It has a very GOOD recipe.

Its not only (or even mainly) bacause of the unconvenient recipe - its (also) the same like between transmutation and alteration orbs: transmute and alchemy are only used ONCE per item (maybe beside in combination with scourings, if you have plenty more here than as chaos), while there's no technical limit on chaos 'uses'.

The 'demand' on making rare gear while (lower level) progressing can become very depending on your luck (drop rng) if you're build relies on some fixed stats (like high damage modifiers on the waepon; while its very easy to craft +1 mods that carry you into maps). Until 60 there's no source of chaos you can work for, socket crafting orbs are also rare and if you're unlucky of dropping no rares of suiting base items: what then? Essences are still too rare IMHO, and their low tiers have only very minor values of their guaranteed stat (compared to the 'regular' mod levels; and: if suiting to the needs at all).

But I would not change this chance orb recipe. Actually I have no better idea than to add a new layer between the chance orb full set (maybe down to <50?) and the chaos set (still 60+?).

What I furtherly miss, is a reliable way to get regal orbs! These are needed for basic 4-mod master crafting and should NOT be forced beyond level 75 areas. Even more, as the mods we can add with the benches are cut on t3. But I'd go with a vendor 'value' (buyable) instead of another recipe. Could be offered starting in act 1 cruel (resp. upcoming act 5) if act 4 would be considered as too low/early.
Value: maybe 2 alch? (1 could be considered too low) Or yet back to a recipe: alchemy and augmentation... would fit (IMHO) both purpose (rare and add mod) as also the value.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

Now I do none of the above and sustain alchs. How?
Well one thing I used to do then and still do now, changed.
They made socket mods give 4 alch shards instead of 2.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

Summary... Not only is there the least need ever for a better alch recipe, the current recipes are no longer even needed.

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Mr_Cee wrote:

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TheAnuhart wrote:

Now I do none of the above and sustain alchs. How?
Well one thing I used to do then and still do now, changed.
They made socket mods give 4 alch shards instead of 2.

Some of the existing/ shard recipes had changed some time ago, and yes some parts give increased alchemy shards now - but what do you mean with 'socket mods'?

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TheAnuhart wrote:

Summary... Not only is there the least need ever for a better alch recipe, the current recipes are no longer even needed.

Even as I'm caring a lot on selling stuff for (especially) alch shards, I still can barely keep a very low, somewhat constant level on alch orbs, they dont really sum up - and this even as I not really spend them more then on some minor jewelries...

And: even if there's less 'demand', there's no reason/need to eliminate the existing recipes. Nobody is forced to do them, but they may be of help for others, or in specific situations. (example: SSF - any option is a good option in unlucky streaks)

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TheAnuhart wrote:

The number I use may differ to the number you use

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TheAnuhart wrote:

I don't mean they should be removed, I mean you don't even need to use them to sustain alchs.