Stat scaling items VS POTCG

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Boem wrote:
Whats wrong with PotG?


I suppose I only really have two issues with it:

1. Reliance on Abyssus to do anything like competitive DPS. By itself, this isn't a terrible thing, as facebreakers gets by just fine wearing Abyssus. Unlike facebreakers, however, you lose the shield which makes you incredibly squishy.

2. The build needs several uniques: PotCG itself, Abyssus, Meginord's, and Alberon's are pretty much required. In order to push your DPS to high level map viable, you also need at least one warden ring. Wearing all these uniques makes it both very hard to cap resists and causes your health pool to suffer. The best way to fix the health issue is Kaom's, but that leaves you with another unique that lacks resistances. So again, it's an issue of survivability.

That all said, I have not yet gotten to map level on my pillar character this league, so the changes to a few items like Carnage Heart and the addition of The Baron may change things. Or the problem could be that I am bad. That's always a possibility.
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Penitent
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Feast
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Essence_Worm
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Witchfire_Brew
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vixen%27s_Entrapment
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retruber wrote:
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Boem wrote:
Whats wrong with PotG?


1. Reliance on Abyssus to do anything like competitive DPS. By itself, this isn't a terrible thing, as facebreakers gets by just fine wearing Abyssus. Unlike facebreakers, however, you lose the shield which makes you incredibly squishy.


This has been my sticking point. I don't want to use abyssus, so I always plan it out with black sun crest. Then I think about my damage and am unconvinced that I'd want it to be my 'league main' character. I'll try it some day, buffs or no, but that day might be a while off.
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innervation wrote:
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retruber wrote:
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Boem wrote:
Whats wrong with PotG?


1. Reliance on Abyssus to do anything like competitive DPS. By itself, this isn't a terrible thing, as facebreakers gets by just fine wearing Abyssus. Unlike facebreakers, however, you lose the shield which makes you incredibly squishy.


This has been my sticking point. I don't want to use abyssus, so I always plan it out with black sun crest. Then I think about my damage and am unconvinced that I'd want it to be my 'league main' character. I'll try it some day, buffs or no, but that day might be a while off.


If you are looking for an alternative to Abyssus, this may be a good league to try it if you can get your hands on a legacy bringer of rain. It does better damage than the sun crest and doesn't have the survivability drop of abyssus. It does make the resistance problem even worse, though.
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Penitent
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Feast
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Essence_Worm
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Witchfire_Brew
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vixen%27s_Entrapment
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retruber wrote:
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Boem wrote:
Whats wrong with PotG?


I suppose I only really have two issues with it:

1. Reliance on Abyssus to do anything like competitive DPS. By itself, this isn't a terrible thing, as facebreakers gets by just fine wearing Abyssus. Unlike facebreakers, however, you lose the shield which makes you incredibly squishy.

2. The build needs several uniques: PotCG itself, Abyssus, Meginord's, and Alberon's are pretty much required. In order to push your DPS to high level map viable, you also need at least one warden ring. Wearing all these uniques makes it both very hard to cap resists and causes your health pool to suffer. The best way to fix the health issue is Kaom's, but that leaves you with another unique that lacks resistances. So again, it's an issue of survivability.

That all said, I have not yet gotten to map level on my pillar character this league, so the changes to a few items like Carnage Heart and the addition of The Baron may change things. Or the problem could be that I am bad. That's always a possibility.


Don't blame yourself mate lol

I'd say for "casual" players it's an horrible item to theorycraft with since all those unique requirement makes you lack in defencive areas

For experienced players it's a decent unique when you know what you are doing and got great gear

But my biggest problem is that stuff like Brutus sprinkler and howa require way less investment for way more results and you double it since they are 1handed or add a shield to fill the lack of defence

Nothing that potcg can do
ZiggyD is the Labyrinth of streamers, some like it, some dont, but GGG will make sure to push it down ur throat to make you like it
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retruber wrote:
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Boem wrote:
Whats wrong with PotG?


I suppose I only really have two issues with it:

1. Reliance on Abyssus to do anything like competitive DPS. By itself, this isn't a terrible thing, as facebreakers gets by just fine wearing Abyssus. Unlike facebreakers, however, you lose the shield which makes you incredibly squishy.

2. The build needs several uniques: PotCG itself, Abyssus, Meginord's, and Alberon's are pretty much required. In order to push your DPS to high level map viable, you also need at least one warden ring. Wearing all these uniques makes it both very hard to cap resists and causes your health pool to suffer. The best way to fix the health issue is Kaom's, but that leaves you with another unique that lacks resistances. So again, it's an issue of survivability.

That all said, I have not yet gotten to map level on my pillar character this league, so the changes to a few items like Carnage Heart and the addition of The Baron may change things. Or the problem could be that I am bad. That's always a possibility.









Not the best build ever, but has no issue doing mid-tier to high-tier maps as a Chieftain. I usually have to maintain my End charges if I want to maintain healthy resistances in ele weakness maps. Could do better with Facebreaker, but I already got a build that uses one.
Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game.
- raics, 06.08.2016

Last edited by JohnNamikaze on Mar 24, 2017, 3:00:55 PM
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JohnNamikaze wrote:
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retruber wrote:
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Boem wrote:
Whats wrong with PotG?


I suppose I only really have two issues with it:

1. Reliance on Abyssus to do anything like competitive DPS. By itself, this isn't a terrible thing, as facebreakers gets by just fine wearing Abyssus. Unlike facebreakers, however, you lose the shield which makes you incredibly squishy.

2. The build needs several uniques: PotCG itself, Abyssus, Meginord's, and Alberon's are pretty much required. In order to push your DPS to high level map viable, you also need at least one warden ring. Wearing all these uniques makes it both very hard to cap resists and causes your health pool to suffer. The best way to fix the health issue is Kaom's, but that leaves you with another unique that lacks resistances. So again, it's an issue of survivability.

That all said, I have not yet gotten to map level on my pillar character this league, so the changes to a few items like Carnage Heart and the addition of The Baron may change things. Or the problem could be that I am bad. That's always a possibility.









Not the best build ever, but has no issue doing mid-tier to high-tier maps as a Chieftain. I usually have to maintain my End charges if I want to maintain healthy resistances in ele weakness maps. Could do better with Facebreaker, but I already got a build that uses one.


See, thats the problem with POTCG atm

thx for linking your stuff

The most reliable way to use it are totems... since it creates such a hole in your defensive value

i just have to hope that POTCG is considered in the "melee buff" of 3.0
ZiggyD is the Labyrinth of streamers, some like it, some dont, but GGG will make sure to push it down ur throat to make you like it
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Sexcalibure wrote:


See, thats the problem with POTCG atm

thx for linking your stuff

The most reliable way to use it are totems... since it creates such a hole in your defensive value

i just have to hope that POTCG is considered in the "melee buff" of 3.0




Was using Glacial Hammer with this build setup, but it never made sense when I went with Chieftain and Infernal Blow made me feel awkward and squishy, so it got me thinking in trying out the melee totem archtype since I already got into using ranged and spell totems.
Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game.
- raics, 06.08.2016

Last edited by JohnNamikaze on Mar 24, 2017, 3:09:11 PM
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JohnNamikaze wrote:
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Sexcalibure wrote:


See, thats the problem with POTCG atm

thx for linking your stuff

The most reliable way to use it are totems... since it creates such a hole in your defensive value

i just have to hope that POTCG is considered in the "melee buff" of 3.0




Was using Glacial Hammer with this build setup, but it never made sense when I went with Chieftain and Infernal Blow made me feel awkward and squishy, so it got me thinking in trying out the melee totem archtype since I already got into using ranged and spell totems.


Oh im in no way demeaning you or your choises

its pretty logical what you did

what im saying is that for a melee item its illogical to have to play range...
ZiggyD is the Labyrinth of streamers, some like it, some dont, but GGG will make sure to push it down ur throat to make you like it
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鬼殺し wrote:
I literally laugh at your little litanies.


I literally lol.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/988f3369-4b68-4eb9-bc0e-edfce4c3c950
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鬼殺し wrote:
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Sexcalibure wrote:
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鬼殺し wrote:
You don't really comport yourself amicably these days.
and care to tell me how have i been mean or insulting people lately? or ever...


Not really. Your post history is public. It suffices.
You were nice in the beginning Charan, now you just sound like a SJW/feminist by saying "i dont like what you say therefor its horrible and you are a bad person" and refusing to show evidences to back what you say
ZiggyD is the Labyrinth of streamers, some like it, some dont, but GGG will make sure to push it down ur throat to make you like it

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