Buff More Than Nerf

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We are also still working out our plans for Energy Shield and related mechanics (and Keystones). Changes to this defence affect Hand of Wisdom and Action builds significantly, and there may not need to be a nerf to Hand of Wisdom and Action if ES and Vaal Pact based build-options are changed significantly.

PLEASE dont nerf ES, instead BUFF Life etc !!!

Analysis: Why We Should Buff More Than Nerf

GGG would need to buff all the content too then, or most of it, it would be mostly the same at the end.

Except that for the current speed of the game, only nerfs will somewhat "fix" things.


By the way, very nice quote, has there been an anouncment or something ?

power creep

ggg for last 2 years buffed everything (i know youll point out voltaxic and some other stuff i know) - it is not an accident that we do 10-20 times more the damage players did in 1.0

you can buff all you like when your game has linear scaling. poe has both linear and exponential. once you mix these two YOU CANNOT buff at will because relative impact of these two scaling method will go wild

currently poe is already way overtuned with %more multipliers.


and the CI vs life. most players have no clue about the game they are playing because they do not need to. CI + vaal pact is a braindead solution for coach potatoes. you stack damage and some buffer and you are set. i understand why people like it so much - it requires ZERO thought. but poe, before we got 20x multiplier to our damage worked fine with defences we had - armor, evasion, block/dodge. but these look bad (to general populace) because CI+VP is just miles better. remove this cancer and youll value stuff that left more. otherwise these non-CI+VP mechanics can be as well as removed. see. build diversity can be obtained by removing stuff - but some are so worried that they will be 'weaker'. but it is all relative. there will be faaaar more B-class options while A-class options will get removed. this means.. hold on.. more A-class options because this is now the top-power-level.

i dont like ES thats why 90% of my chars are life based, but imo ES is not the problem. the problem is named LIFE. so if u nerf ES, life still sucks, nothing realy changed.


and @Fruz:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1832918

Thanks!

Sad to see that double dipping won't be addressed in 2.6.0 :S.

And I agree that some content might need to be adjusted with the incoming ES changes however ... I have been teally enjoying my life based guardian so far, even in high and quite hard rolled maps.

Prefer nerf over buff. And without adding "cool new stuff" which needs to be nerfed to be in line with the rest.

Buffing more than nerfing? You mean powercreep? Which happens all the time in every league?

We ended up with easy game where any build (Elemental Hit included) 1 hits entire screen in 99% of content and to counter that, we have like 1% of content with bosses so insanely overtuned that only handful of builds designed to deal literally 100x damage of other builds (while being immortal) can defeat.

...or we could nerf end-bosses and ridiculous mechanics (vaal pact, double dipping, HotW) to have balanced and interesting game.

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guggelhupf wrote:

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We are also still working out our plans for Energy Shield and related mechanics (and Keystones). Changes to this defence affect Hand of Wisdom and Action builds significantly, and there may not need to be a nerf to Hand of Wisdom and Action if ES and Vaal Pact based build-options are changed significantly.

PLEASE dont nerf ES, instead BUFF Life etc !!!

Analysis: Why We Should Buff More Than Nerf

ES is getting nerfed...it's that simple
Buffing life isn't going to fix most life based builds problems...it would be nothing more than a band aid

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guggelhupf wrote:

Analysis: Why We Should Buff More Than Nerf

Cuz we want game to be easy and powercreep is fun?
Also angry teenagers might get even more angry about losing their own overpowered build?

Seriously, what is so wrong about nerfing stuff? It is all about getting stuff in line. If there are few things that are too good, and the rest is ok, why the fuck would you bother buffing everything (meanwhile you can make them OP), and then increasing the difficulty level, instead of simply nerfing those few OP thingies?

Problem lies somewhere else, and it has nothing to do with amounts.