[2.6]~DEAD IN 3.0~Aegis NecroTank CWC Bladefall | Farm Guardians while watching Netflix

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Increases to minion damage WILL apply to you (so it's the same as 'you deal % increased damage') WHEN and only when you equip the Scourge Terror claw. If you read the unique text you'll see that it applies minion damage to you. This is a very popular claw for this reason and is used in lots of builds.


Perfect, I looked around again and I have learned how this build works now. Thank you. :)
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sublimemm wrote:

BIG DISCLAIMER to anyone looking to follow this guide, the skill tree posted is outdated and takes a route through the Shadow area instead of Scion's area. Definitely check out DanEagle's legacy league character LegacyOfTheLoyal or something like that, the tree is WAY better. You will not be able to cast 3 auras with the skill tree posted, you need the 3rd set of reduced mana reservation nodes.



Hey, thanks for the endorsement. I am glad to see that my build is working for others. I did have a modern version of the skill tree up at the time of your comment but it was in an awkward and easily missable location so I have moved it. I have also changed the skill tree route based on another reply to this guide so the current posted skill tree is slightly different.

Best of luck and thanks again.
skin of the loyal is impossible to get on hc, any viable alternatives?

i currently have a relic aegis
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facelessman122 wrote:
skin of the loyal is impossible to get on hc, any viable alternatives?

i currently have a relic aegis


You can swap in any 6l ES chest IMHO. I wanted to see if this build was viable SSF (or just league starter) so I tried handicapping myself in various ways.

The first thing I did was swap my 3ex legacy aegis for a 5c aegis. I couldn't tell the difference on red maps. Still invincible.

I removed my chest (SotL) completely and was still unkillable.

Removing the chest completely droppped my resting armor (auras, no flasks) from 27k to 20k. In my opinion this isn't noticeable. With flasks my armor went from 70k to 50k I think. Pretty much an invincible megatank.

My ES dropped from 8.5k to 6(something)k without chest piece. Of course replacing this with a 500/600/700 ES chest piece would put me higher than SotL. Which in my opinion the bigger the 1 shot you can take, the more likely you are to not die. 78% block is great, but that still leaves 1 in 5 hits getting through, this is how I die, unlucky rolls of the dice where that 20% chance happens consecutively. Obviously burning and bleeding with nothing to hit you (and therefore heal you) is the MOST dangerous situation you can find yourself in.

I haven't had a chance to try a saintly whatever chest piece (the armor/es one) but I would imagine it's almost as good (tank-wise) as SotL. You'd be missing the +1 to gems though, which path of building says is 18k less DPS for the bladefall+poison 6L. My gems are actually 19 (and 0 quality) right now and although it's not the fastest build in the world I map at reasonable pace. The guardian fights are pretty long (2 mins in boss fight). So with SotL they're buffed to 20, and I'd called the damage 'completely acceptable'. I'm sure you'd say the same without SotL as well.



Like I said in the very first sentence this is all in my humble opinion, I'd defer to DanEagle's advice.

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DanEagle wrote:
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sublimemm wrote:

BIG DISCLAIMER to anyone looking to follow this guide, the skill tree posted is outdated and takes a route through the Shadow area instead of Scion's area. Definitely check out DanEagle's legacy league character LegacyOfTheLoyal or something like that, the tree is WAY better. You will not be able to cast 3 auras with the skill tree posted, you need the 3rd set of reduced mana reservation nodes.



Hey, thanks for the endorsement. I am glad to see that my build is working for others. I did have a modern version of the skill tree up at the time of your comment but it was in an awkward and easily missable location so I have moved it. I have also changed the skill tree route based on another reply to this guide so the current posted skill tree is slightly different.

Best of luck and thanks again.


Ah, I must have missed it. The changes to the tree look great, not only the benefits you mentioned but a better (or additional) jewel socket as well. I was hesitating picking up another socket because the passives leading to them were useless (projectile damage and mana were closest ones I saw). Getting those extra resists in the scion area will really easy up the requirements on gear (especially helpful for those of us on a budget).

Quick question/comment. When I'm just sitting unbuffed by an offering I'm at 48%/26%, spell block is way too low for my comfort level. You run an extra bone offering to max out block before a hairy situation, but have no way to cast desecrate. I've died quiet a few times when bone offering runs out in mid fight (I guess when the block works... too well, you dont take damage and don't get the cwdt trigger) or the beginning of boss fights which don't have corpses on hand (quiet a few of them). I've been considering swapping out flesh offering for desecrate to make sure I'm always max blocked.


p.s I've been playing with abyssal cry (I was playing with alternatives to flesh offering) and found it helps with map clear speed quite well. FWIW.
Last edited by sublimemm#3442 on Apr 18, 2017, 6:48:59 PM
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sublimemm wrote:
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DanEagle wrote:
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sublimemm wrote:

BIG DISCLAIMER to anyone looking to follow this guide, the skill tree posted is outdated and takes a route through the Shadow area instead of Scion's area. Definitely check out DanEagle's legacy league character LegacyOfTheLoyal or something like that, the tree is WAY better. You will not be able to cast 3 auras with the skill tree posted, you need the 3rd set of reduced mana reservation nodes.



Hey, thanks for the endorsement. I am glad to see that my build is working for others. I did have a modern version of the skill tree up at the time of your comment but it was in an awkward and easily missable location so I have moved it. I have also changed the skill tree route based on another reply to this guide so the current posted skill tree is slightly different.

Best of luck and thanks again.


Ah, I must have missed it. The changes to the tree look great, not only the benefits you mentioned but a better (or additional) jewel socket as well. I was hesitating picking up another socket because the passives leading to them were useless (projectile damage and mana were closest ones I saw). Getting those extra resists in the scion area will really easy up the requirements on gear (especially helpful for those of us on a budget).

Quick question/comment. When I'm just sitting unbuffed by an offering I'm at 48%/26%, spell block is way too low for my comfort level. You run an extra bone offering to max out block before a hairy situation, but have no way to cast desecrate. I've died quiet a few times when bone offering runs out in mid fight (I guess when the block works... too well, you dont take damage and don't get the cwdt trigger) or the beginning of boss fights which don't have corpses on hand (quiet a few of them). I've been considering swapping out flesh offering for desecrate to make sure I'm always max blocked.


p.s I've been playing with abyssal cry (I was playing with alternatives to flesh offering) and found it helps with map clear speed quite well. FWIW.


Can't really remember a time where bone offering went down on me mid fight. Between fights for sure but not during. In all honesty I've been removing CWDT from my links before doing the manual casting of desecrate and Bone Offering instead of the smart thing of getting another desecrate in off hand.

There are a number of options I've been playing around with regarding alternate defensive setups. The first that comes to mind is swapping CWDT for CWS. This works decently well if you don't mind the offering spam and don't have any stun protection/resistance like I currently lack. Blocked hits that would have stunned still count towards CWS. I've also played around with having a second normal Aegis in offhand with Desecrate Bone Offering and Increased Duration. A max corpses Offering should net you about 18 sec duration assuming your gems are leveled and 20q.

Abyssal cry is pretty fun, but don't use it for a lame reason. I don't have the mana to cast it until my enlighten hits 3. That is seriously the whole reason.


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facelessman122 wrote:
skin of the loyal is impossible to get on hc, any viable alternatives?

i currently have a relic aegis


As sublimemm has mentioned, the build works with considerable effectiveness with a regular Vaal Regalia. If I were to swap out to my 750ES regalia in legacy, I would gain approx 1.3k ES and lose 10k armour. I also lose about 1k damage/hit which works out to be about a 10% reduction.

Other HC alterations possible include swapping vuln for enfeeble, dropping reckless defense and anvil for Stone of Lazhwar + command of steel cluster if you dislike the idea of getting crit more frequently, and/or a more aware and active playstyle than I am personally inclined to have e.g. using your flasks, looking at the screen, not going afk during bossfights etc.

Any advice how to level progress, im having a hard time and im only lev 34 :S


Thx in advance.-
Great, cheers for the reply. How dangerous is bleed to aegis characters, I'm considering death's Door as I have a pair aswell.

Also considering a 6L saintly chainmail instead of a regalia and rolling it with essence, deafening dread is stupidly cheap.
Last edited by facelessman122#1602 on Apr 19, 2017, 5:54:43 AM
I'm a little confused with how my necromancer is spell block capped. To be frank I'm play a zombie focused build with chaos golem and a animate guardian being my utility picks of choice for utility minion's. Atm I just spec'ed out of the aegis node and just took harrier instead. My character sits at 25% physical block and 15% spell block but when my cast when stunned proc's I jump up from 25% to 69% physical and for spells I go from 15% to 75%. The only additional block chance I have is the helm enchantment that gives +9 to block for bone offering, and my shield of choice is the rathpith globe. I'm a little confused as to why I'm spell block capped and why my physical isn't. I'm not really complaining about it as I did lvl with my shield being on my minion's. And now that I feel they are comfortable tanky enough for the B's abilities bosses do to minion's I'm quickly realizing they don't need it anymore and the extra defense's would be highly appreciated for me.
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facelessman122 wrote:
Great, cheers for the reply. How dangerous is bleed to aegis characters, I'm considering death's Door as I have a pair aswell.

Also considering a 6L saintly chainmail instead of a regalia and rolling it with essence, deafening dread is stupidly cheap.


Bleed can be fatal if you don't notice it and there are no enemies around to attack you. I have also been looking into Death's Door but the SotL version of the build needs the ES imo so I make do with rare boots and a flask. If you are running a higher ES chest then they certainly are a viable option. Getting the added chaos on crit enchant is great for damage. The leech enchant is also an option as Ghost Reaver is pretty close by.

As for Saintly Chainmail, if I were to swap from SotL into another chest right now with no other changes I would need a minimum of 400ES on that chest to break even and would lose about 10k armour. If you are rolling with dread you would need to hit in the top 3 tiers of both flat ES and Hybrid to break that 400ES mark. With a Vaal Regalia, rolling T1 % will break 400 and rolling T1 flat with a mastercrafted % will exceed 400.

In it's current form I have not died to anything short of oneshots except for a series of Beyond mobs using Detonate Dead in a -max map and Bameth igniting me with Vaal DD as those can't be blocked. I would think that the best available option is a high ES(700+) Vaal with death's door. You would need to have good reliable flasks for anti-ignite and freeze with death's door but that is pretty manageable.

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