Let's talk about sanctuary cities

I dont see the problem with no public schools.:P But sure thats what they say. Public is easily manipulated into giving up their freedoms

BTW speaking of schools. My family owns a pool/lansacping company and we have to pay 20K for every swimming pool hole we put in the ground for schools and kids cant even do basics coming out.
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Isnt this a self-solving problem? You let criminal & illegals in, crime rates & lawlessness go up, people who have anything to loose (business etc.) then leave for another city, property starts to lose value, the "sanctuary" then becomes even poorer & infested with libtards, which means even more crime & less tax collected... until the city goes bankrupt and nature re-takes it.

Or at least that would be the natural evolutionary process, if it wasn't for the welfare system and federal handouts / bailouts / subventions...
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morbo wrote:
Isnt this a self-solving problem? You let criminal & illegals in, crime rates & lawlessness go up, people who have anything to loose (business etc.) then leave for another city, property starts to lose value, the "sanctuary" then becomes even poorer & infested with libtards, which means even more crime & less tax collected... until the city goes bankrupt and nature re-takes it.

Or at least that would be the natural evolutionary process, if it wasn't for the welfare system and federal handouts / bailouts / subventions...


As long as fed can keep printing money and its accepted evolution and old economic laws will never take place. Almost every country is on the bandwagon too with deficit spending so it's like they are all tied together in this spiral. Its strange high level econ I'm not sure we ever witnessed before so history is no guide. Maybe continues forever?
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Aim_Deep wrote:
As long as fed can keep printing money and its accepted evolution and old economic laws will never take place. Almost every country is on the bandwagon too with deficit spending so it's like they are all tied together in this spiral. Its strange high level econ I'm not sure we ever witnessed before so history is no guide. Maybe continues forever?
It's not really new economic laws, it's just a sneaky tax. If there is $9 trillion in fiat currency in circulation and another $1 trillion is printed, it's functionally the same as recalling 10% of $9 trillion in "gold"-backed currency (leaving $8.1 trillion), without the consent of their owners, instantly as if by some strange magic, then having $900 million to play around with.

It's a little more complicated than that because USD isn't the only currency in the world, but the TL;DR is: Printing new fiat money is theft, and theft legitimised by government is taxation. In this case, often without representation, as foreigners can hold currency.
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Ocylix wrote:
taking in unchecked people from different cultural backgrounds is very dangerous. it only takes one extremist to fuck up a whole city block.




What is this mentality?

If truely that dangerous, maybe you should question why they would want to strike at you because that's not normal and doesn't come from nothing.

I love when people are polarized by scary-images, they are so easy to control through fear.

Repent for your ways, and if even a tiny tiny tiny fraction of people killed due irresponsible gun-laws should die, then it is the price to pay to revert from hiding scared and shutting the world out to being proud and having faith that people see the good in your people when they come.

You are afraid of the world, running and hiding in a fortress.

Europe is cleaning up the mess after America, so many refugees and immigrants have to be taken care of by europe and it all leads back to USA meddling in affairs they have no right to. Wars that are not justified, supplying guns to various groups etc and distabalizing the region. It's not only the material aspects that europe has to take care of, its also regaining the honor of the western civilization and restoring the faith of those suffering under the consequences of the Unites States and threatening to cause war on a great scale.

USA massive hypocrites when it comes to accepting their own responsibility.
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morbo wrote:
Isnt this a self-solving problem? You let criminal & illegals in, crime rates & lawlessness go up, people who have anything to loose (business etc.) then leave for another city, property starts to lose value, the "sanctuary" then becomes even poorer & infested with libtards, which means even more crime & less tax collected... until the city goes bankrupt and nature re-takes it.

Or at least that would be the natural evolutionary process, if it wasn't for the welfare system and federal handouts / bailouts / subventions...


Spoken straight out of fear and lack of understanding. You must have taken the medias misinformation to heart.

This is capitalism at its worst - when the thought is always: higher taxes always equals everyone moves away because they can earn more elsewhere, and there is no distinguishing anything its always true so lets just keep pushing it to 0%.

Capitalism concentrates wealth, and in the case of the unites states its still the cultural leader of the western world in the sense that it produces much of the intellectual goods that the rest of the western world consume like music, movies and so on. Still, even giving you are at the top of the receiving end of capitalism you can hardly compete with countries that are simply constructed right in terms of quality of life and many many other main factors.

I know you are scoped up in misinformation and fear, but you really shouldn't talk about these points of view you are just hurting the world spraying it to infect others to think of ego ego EGO. Me, can't see my gain in front of me? have no faith think ME ME ME.

Where i come from we are great, and we are moral, extremely good rates of everything, low rates of corruption etc etc. Our society is great and very civilized. Do you know what civilization is? It's that legacy left behind which separates us from beasts who are led by their ego and the gain they can see right in front of them - the greater the civilization the greater emphasis on human aspects of life and America's obsession with capitalism is leading people towards the beast inside and not striving to do greater good/right. We are great, because we have fought for the opposite of capitalism. When times are good and there are no troubles, the ignorant masses move to capitalistic standards because why not mememe when i don't see why not(can only see what's in front of me), but whenever there are trouble people are more inclined to do whats right to make it work for everyone - which in turns affects everyone else positively.

You know those annoying lame social games many dread or consider lame. Like you start at univercity and you have to take part in them to get to know everyone? If you didn't plan for it, it's extremely hard to convince a group to do it - but its wise because it benefits everyone and everyone is better if you actually do it.

Seems too out there for you? Too bad, it's not fiction its all just what it is.
I am the light of the morning and the shadow on the wall, I am nothing and I am all.
Last edited by Crackmonster#7709 on Feb 2, 2017, 7:04:23 AM
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Crackmonster wrote:
Still, even giving you are at the top of the receiving end of capitalism you can hardly compete with countries that are simply constructed right in terms of quality of life and many many other main factors.

Which countries are those?

It's not about "me me me". It's about not socializing failure and promoting it. Why should other people be paying for whatever consequences your (bad) life choices caused? A society that socializes failure, with no checks, is a society that grows more and more irresponsible. The more dependency on the state or "system" you have, the more irresponsible people become.

I believe in personal responsibility, personal freedom and personal consequences. Social responsibility aka "social justice" only breeds a lazy and complacent society, by putting the burden on hard-working people, whose backs will eventually snap. Only people who can't take care of themselves (handicapped, kids, elderly, special needs, etc..) should be helped by the society (there are many ways to do this, not just by handing out cash).

Expecting other people to support you, is also a kind of egoism aka "me me me". And yes, when neighbourhoods become shitholes or the local governmental Mafia wants to rob you blind with taxation, people will always move their business elsewhere. Do you blame them?

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Capitalism concentrates wealth

Corporatism concentrates wealth. Capitalism has brought billions of people out of poverty, or more exactly: has allowed the existence of billions of people. Every country that adopted free market capitalism, eventually became more wealthy and prosperous. Every country that adopted socialist ideas, eventually declined. (look at the latest test subject: Venezuela)

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Where i come from we are great, and we are moral, extremely good rates of everything, low rates of corruption etc etc. Our society is great and very civilized. Do you know what civilization is?

Please do share the secret recipe
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ScrotieMcB wrote:
I think it's worth noting that opponents of the US war on drugs should really not be arguing for federal power to override recent votes of the people in several states to legalize recreational and/or medical marijuana. There's a "sanctuary city" policy I can fully get behind. ;)
War on Drugs TM != Sanctuary Cities.

WoD basically criminalizes entire swaths of the population for a mostly victimless crime, eg, dude/dudette wants to get high. Much like Prohibition and alcohol, it creates a black market, and because the profits are so high, territorial pissings occur. That is most of the victim crime, along with unethical dealers who lace their products to "make weight". Mercury... yes, mercury... is commonly added to cannabis to increase weight, and thus increase profits. Not. Cool.

THere are statutes on the books for driving under the influence. From a pubic safety standpoint, that I can support, much like I support it for alcohol.

But the Fed is opposed to it for many reasons. First, Big Alcohol has a lot of influence, and they hate competition, especially when said cmpetition is superior product. Never mind the "sin tax" money they could rake in from sales. Then there's the issue of "What are we going to do with all the DEA agents who are suddenly out of work?" (A: They can be switched over to ICE and deal with the illegal immigration problem.)
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EpicGoesXerxis wrote:
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ScrotieMcB wrote:
I think it's worth noting that opponents of the US war on drugs should really not be arguing for federal power to override recent votes of the people in several states to legalize recreational and/or medical marijuana. There's a "sanctuary city" policy I can fully get behind. ;)
War on Drugs TM != Sanctuary Cities.
The jurisdictional principle is the same: are more local governments required to be lapdogs of the federal government, rendering recent votes for marijuana legalization void, or not?
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Crackmonster wrote:
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morbo wrote:
Isnt this a self-solving problem? You let criminal & illegals in, crime rates & lawlessness go up, people who have anything to loose (business etc.) then leave for another city, property starts to lose value, the "sanctuary" then becomes even poorer & infested with libtards, which means even more crime & less tax collected... until the city goes bankrupt and nature re-takes it.

Or at least that would be the natural evolutionary process, if it wasn't for the welfare system and federal handouts / bailouts / subventions...


Spoken straight out of fear and lack of understanding. You must have taken the medias misinformation to heart.

This is capitalism at its worst - when the thought is always: higher taxes always equals everyone moves away because they can earn more elsewhere, and there is no distinguishing anything its always true so lets just keep pushing it to 0%.

Capitalism concentrates wealth, and in the case of the unites states its still the cultural leader of the western world in the sense that it produces much of the intellectual goods that the rest of the western world consume like music, movies and so on. Still, even giving you are at the top of the receiving end of capitalism you can hardly compete with countries that are simply constructed right in terms of quality of life and many many other main factors.

I know you are scoped up in misinformation and fear, but you really shouldn't talk about these points of view you are just hurting the world spraying it to infect others to think of ego ego EGO. Me, can't see my gain in front of me? have no faith think ME ME ME.

Where i come from we are great, and we are moral, extremely good rates of everything, low rates of corruption etc etc. Our society is great and very civilized. Do you know what civilization is? It's that legacy left behind which separates us from beasts who are led by their ego and the gain they can see right in front of them - the greater the civilization the greater emphasis on human aspects of life and America's obsession with capitalism is leading people towards the beast inside and not striving to do greater good/right. We are great, because we have fought for the opposite of capitalism. When times are good and there are no troubles, the ignorant masses move to capitalistic standards because why not mememe when i don't see why not(can only see what's in front of me), but whenever there are trouble people are more inclined to do whats right to make it work for everyone - which in turns affects everyone else positively.

You know those annoying lame social games many dread or consider lame. Like you start at univercity and you have to take part in them to get to know everyone? If you didn't plan for it, it's extremely hard to convince a group to do it - but its wise because it benefits everyone and everyone is better if you actually do it.

Seems too out there for you? Too bad, it's not fiction its all just what it is.


GWB was worst president ever who opened the gates of hell in ME, but rest of this post is all trash. You talk about other being scared then say ban guns? Derp. Whats next cars, trucks, jars of gasoline, fertilizer, knives and or anything potentially deadly and lock everyone in rubber rooms? Capitalism enriched billions around the world - a world not to long ago 3/4 of ppls were slaves for thousands of years before that and mass epidemics from starvation to populations wiped out through wars or disease due to lack of trade partnerships and knowledge and innovation capitalism brings.

Capitalism is basically flawless. Until liberals start fucking with it from helping underachievers to bank bailouts. Because when you reward failure you get more failure. Thats why Liberal cities are all cesspools.
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