[3.8] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam (All Content)

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areukiddingme wrote:

Why u was playing without Vaal Pact?U have so much hp, i have only 6.1k and this boss cant even hit 15% hp as his shaped version(t15)


Normally u dont need Vaal Pact as Slayer. But as I said. The "less recovery of health"-mod is pretty significant. I underestimated it.
Ok, so the videos are now online.
I did not have time to edit them in any way, so they will just be the complete run every time.
But you can just skip ahead to the actual boss fight for each video.

Please keep in mind that I attempted almost all of those bosses for the very first time.
It really shows in Shaper's Phase 3, where I was completely overwhelmed. :)

Sadly I do not have Zana in Standard, so for the fights where I did have to refresh my flasks, it takes a little bit longer. :(

I did not change my flask setup for any of the fights, so this could all be done way more efficient.
I just used my normal mapping flask setup for all the bosses.

Videos

Esh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToWLFcVxLGA
Pretty easy fight. I just played it a little too recklessly which dropped me very low at one point.

Xoph:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24XZwRqVoEY
Easy fight for this build.

Tul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqdvERCXzN4
Also pretty easy. I did not even dodge his most deadly attack properly and was still fine.

Uul-Netol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fffhwajUJN4
Almost as easy as Xoph. Really not too much to worry about with this build.
I probably didn't even have to refresh my flasks there.

Chayula:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klMIORg4eb0
This fight is pretty hard with -60% chaos resist. Even though I did manage to kill him without dying, I would not recommend doing him on HC with this build/flasks setup/chaos resistances. :)

Chimera:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7-IDZODGns
Overall very easy to handle. The only time you actually lose life is when he goes into his smoke cloud phase, where it took me a little longer than necessary to find him, because I wasn't quick enough due to my lack of experience.
Although it should be mentioned that I ran this as a white map, because I simply forgot to roll it. :)

Hydra:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p-hbi-hMYc
Also very easy in my opinion. Even though I think I do a pretty good job of dodging her abilites, I think that you can even play this fight a lot more sloppy and still be fine. The map has 40% Extra Elemental Resistance mod so it takes a bit longer to kill her.

Phoenix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycDba-Psp-s
I think that Phoenix and Minotaur are significantly harder for this build than the other two guardians simply because of their one shot potential. You can see that I was a little bit too slow one time and it almost killed me. As a cyclone build you do not have control over your character 100% of the time and those few milliseconds delay before you can react can actually matter. :)

Minotaur:
Was not recorded for some reason. Will update later.

Atziri:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ9CVFKClDs
Shouldn't come as a surprise that this is very easy. Everything just dies way too quickly.

Uber Atziri:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugcnw88ULkc
Uber Atziri is of course a different story. :)
The Vaals went pretty smooth and I think that you can kill them like this pretty consistently every time. The trio is actually also not a big problem. I just forgot about the mechanic of the fire guy, that you cannot attack him when he is buffed. Doh! :)
Atziri herself I actually played pretty bad. But yeah, the fact remains that you can die if you only screw up once (I even got lucky a few times when I got hit by a flameblast and survived). I have a different strategy in mind which I will try and let you know how it went. It is certainly doable deathless but other builds are far more suited for this fight. :)

Shaper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nHBtUx4yLk
Yeah well, what can I say. Considering the difficulty of this fight I didn't really expect to get far on my first attempt. Because of that I was pretty surprised how well it all went.
But then I got to phase 3...
Just watch for yourselves, I suck. :)
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Bymen wrote:

I did this boss many many times before and he never even got me below 90% HP.
In this case though, it was a combination of many things coming together.
Before I die you see me actually drop kind of low to the blast rain:
https://i.imgur.com/MA3jKWD.jpg

This is simply due to the fact that this map had the reduced life recover mod, so my leech couldnt
really keep up with the damage, but it was still manageable.

But then when the rare mobs spawned, they rolled an elemental reflect, as can be seen here:
http://i.imgur.com/VhDoeoQ.jpg
You can see the outline of the elemental reflect aura.

This would also still not have been enough to kill me probably, but there was also a Soul Conduit Mob, which revived the Ele Reflect one which meant that I essentially went through its HP twice.

So yeah, high Boss dmg + Low Life Leech + High Elemental Reflect Damage killed me in the end. :)

Will now upload the videos I mentioned before and post again. :)

Ah yes. Saw the reflect aura in the second image. I suppose in HC, Sibyl's Lament ring + Primeval Force will be essential in handling Elemental Reflect. And not to mention skipping maps with "Less Life and Energy Shield Recovery".

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Bymen wrote:
Ok, so the videos are now online.
I did not have time to edit them in any way, so they will just be the complete run every time.
But you can just skip ahead to the actual boss fight for each video.

Please keep in mind that I attempted almost all of those bosses for the very first time.
It really shows in Shaper's Phase 3, where I was completely overwhelmed. :)

Sadly I do not have Zana in Standard, so for the fights where I did have to refresh my flasks, it takes a little bit longer. :(

I did not change my flask setup for any of the fights, so this could all be done way more efficient.
I just used my normal mapping flask setup for all the bosses.

Videos

Esh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToWLFcVxLGA
Pretty easy fight. I just played it a little too recklessly which dropped me very low at one point.

Xoph:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24XZwRqVoEY
Easy fight for this build.

Tul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqdvERCXzN4
Also pretty easy. I did not even dodge his most deadly attack properly and was still fine.

Uul-Netol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fffhwajUJN4
Almost as easy as Xoph. Really not too much to worry about with this build.
I probably didn't even have to refresh my flasks there.

Chayula:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klMIORg4eb0
This fight is pretty hard with -60% chaos resist. Even though I did manage to kill him without dying, I would not recommend doing him on HC with this build/flasks setup/chaos resistances. :)

Chimera:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7-IDZODGns
Overall very easy to handle. The only time you actually lose life is when he goes into his smoke cloud phase, where it took me a little longer than necessary to find him, because I wasn't quick enough due to my lack of experience.
Although it should be mentioned that I ran this as a white map, because I simply forgot to roll it. :)

Hydra:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p-hbi-hMYc
Also very easy in my opinion. Even though I think I do a pretty good job of dodging her abilites, I think that you can even play this fight a lot more sloppy and still be fine. The map has 40% Extra Elemental Resistance mod so it takes a bit longer to kill her.

Phoenix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycDba-Psp-s
I think that Phoenix and Minotaur are significantly harder for this build than the other two guardians simply because of their one shot potential. You can see that I was a little bit too slow one time and it almost killed me. As a cyclone build you do not have control over your character 100% of the time and those few milliseconds delay before you can react can actually matter. :)

Minotaur:
Was not recorded for some reason. Will update later.

Atziri:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ9CVFKClDs
Shouldn't come as a surprise that this is very easy. Everything just dies way too quickly.

Uber Atziri:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugcnw88ULkc
Uber Atziri is of course a different story. :)
The Vaals went pretty smooth and I think that you can kill them like this pretty consistently every time. The trio is actually also not a big problem. I just forgot about the mechanic of the fire guy, that you cannot attack him when he is buffed. Doh! :)
Atziri herself I actually played pretty bad. But yeah, the fact remains that you can die if you only screw up once (I even got lucky a few times when I got hit by a flameblast and survived). I have a different strategy in mind which I will try and let you know how it went. It is certainly doable deathless but other builds are far more suited for this fight. :)

Shaper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nHBtUx4yLk
Yeah well, what can I say. Considering the difficulty of this fight I didn't really expect to get far on my first attempt. Because of that I was pretty surprised how well it all went.
But then I got to phase 3...
Just watch for yourselves, I suck. :)

For first attempts, I am very impressed by your game play. I can see why you are able to level your guy to 96 in HC. :)

I have included your game play videos in the main guide. Thanks again for uploading the videos!

EDIT: Btw, video on Tul fight appears to be unavailable. You might want to repost the link?
Last edited by kira1414 on Apr 3, 2017, 12:36:50 PM
Cant decide which body armour to pick , have both belly of the beast and bronns 6l , with belly have around 60k dmg and 6300 hp with bronns 78k dmg and 5600 hp ,what you guys think its important for this build to complete shaper ? hp or dmg cant decide
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kira1414 wrote:

For first attempts, I am very impressed by your game play. I can see why you are able to level your guy to 96 in HC. :)

Thanks :)

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kira1414 wrote:

I have included your game play videos in the main guide. Thanks again for uploading the videos!

You are welcome. Thanks again for this great guide!

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kira1414 wrote:

EDIT: Btw, video on Tul fight appears to be unavailable. You might want to repost the link?

Woops. Video was set to private. Fixed. :)
Hey! Thanks for this build guide.


I have a question: what happens at lvl55 and why swap cyclone for eq @55? I did that, dps is crazy w/ tabula rasa + cyclone but I have some mana problems with herald of ash. I think I should use blasphemy/warlord?
Last edited by Pheu on Apr 3, 2017, 2:30:20 PM
Alright who is good at maths????

Not sure if this was already discussed before i started playing this build but here goes...


What is the ideal amount of Health and DPS(including 38% fire pen(gear and passive) and -44% fire res(flammability)in the calulation) required to acheive the most amount of life leech against a target with 75 fire resist?

taking into account 2.4% life leech from attacks with 140% life leech rate modifier and the 5% of max life per second to max life leech rate.

I know life leech is tied to your max health but i have no idea how to work it out on paper.



Basically i want to know with 7200 max health and 64,000dps am i reaching the cap?

if not what would help me hit the cap?
More dps?
More leech on attacks?
More life leech rate modifier?
More health?

Thanks i know this post is crazy!


Edit: another way to ask my question would be:

what is the sweet spot amount of health and dps needed to hit the games leech cap in this build?
Last edited by Lunartuna on Apr 3, 2017, 5:24:38 PM
what do you think about using this in the build?


considering you get so much leech and all that jazz
at level 83, I finally decided to do uber lab, and had no problem at all. Here is my gear/gem setups.
Spoiler


oh, and heres my tree.(can see jewels in the tree)
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQBAASzBS0HdQmWC2EMcA48FCAUcRR1GJEY2yFVIWAiryPTJyAnnyz7MfsyfjhTOQ46Uju2PAU8LUCgR35KfVBHVvpeE185YVJlTWebZ6BoZWjybyd07XTxdqx253fXePl673zZft1_K4IHgpuDX4PMhNmE74VShaeGYIa0h2qHdooiivCNuY9gkGyXeZo7mmqbLZtYn9-iAKTCpTWpJ6mUrY2uPq9ssKuygLc-vJ-9Nr6nwGbApsSCxq7Pfti92WHZfNrB3D3jn-RR6hjrCe8O707vfPAf8931Yfcy-Ov9bv4K?accountName=mattislouie&characterName=Wielder_of_Brisingr


cyclone: 50k DPS (59kDPS with totem out) (5.75 attacks per second) (105% fire penetration (with level 18 flammability and the wise oak))

flameburst: 7.5k avg dmg (141% fire penetration (again with level 18 flammability and the wise oak)

others: (life: 5.1k) (resists: elemental maxed (chaos is below 0 of course)) (armour: 4.1k (with flask))

please reply any recommendations that I should do
Please reply to your whispers for items... Even if you are mapping, in a rotation, in uber lab, or if its sold. Thank you. :D
Last edited by mattislouie on Apr 3, 2017, 7:50:39 PM
Hello,

I was looking at the skill tree and I do believe it could be optimized slightly. Someone could have already commented on this. Instead of completing the circle of life which has constitution, and is located next to path of the warrior, you can re-allocated the points down to warriors blood moving up the string to the mauraders circle. This causes you to loose approximately 6-8% of life but you also gain an massive increase in armor %, life regen, 16 to life. I still recommend running a string to constitution.

http://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQBAQSzBS0HdQmWC2EMXw48FCAUTRRxFHUYkRjXGNshVSFgIq8nICz7MfsyfjhTOQ46UjwFPC1AoEa3R35QR1OlXhNfOWFSZU1mVGebaGVo8m8ndO108Xasdud673zZggeCm4Nfg8yE2YTvhVKFe4Zgh2qKIorwj2CQbJd5mjuaapstm1if36IApMKpJ6mUrY2uPq9ssKu3PryfvTa-p8BmwKbEgsauz37Tb9i92WHZfNrB3D3kUeoY6wnsOO8O707vfPAf8kHz3fcy-Ov8S_4KXz_2SIzPPfxYY8bY7SBX4nfllG9yD3GFeuZj_UbXI9MMcCefO7aFp4a0pTWygPVh


Also, I noticed that there is an option to increase elemental damage drastically, which can cause primarily 1 issue... Elemental reflect is awful. So up by devotion/elementalist on the skill tree, there is that open jewel slot. If you throw in an intuitive leap, you can grab up some big skill things (i want to call them nodes...). Specifically, you can grab: faith and steel; devotion, endurance. You can push the excess skill points into the string to get the additional elemental dmg... Catalyse or even celestial judgement.

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