Another garbage poe mechanic: Labyrinth edition

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

"They are easy to build against. But there are people doing lab with other build types (like Vaal Pact CI). And spike traps hurt these a lot."

You get hit by spikes, your recharge comes up while youre stuck in it, you heal back up to full ES.

Maybe you are unaware that one can get hit by spike traps without getting stuck. And that they cause bleeding. And that you cant (normally) recharge while bleeding. And that they often are next to saw traps. So getting hit by spike trap and then immediately getting sawbladed while bleeding can easily lead to panic (that is how some people react) and subsequent death. I have even been hit by 2 spike traps at (almost?) the same time in BHC.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Plus you can run a fucking Vaal Discipline, if you can die through Vaal Disc then i dont know what to say at that point other than its probably in the best interest of that person to try harder.

Are you seriously implying that people will always have Vaal discipline when going through lab traps?

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Zrevnur wrote:

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

"They are easy to build against. But there are people doing lab with other build types (like Vaal Pact CI). And spike traps hurt these a lot."

You get hit by spikes, your recharge comes up while youre stuck in it, you heal back up to full ES.

Maybe you are unaware that one can get hit by spike traps without getting stuck. And that they cause bleeding. And that you cant (normally) recharge while bleeding. And that they often are next to saw traps. So getting hit by spike trap and then immediately getting sawbladed while bleeding can easily lead to panic (that is how some people react) and subsequent death. I have even been hit by 2 spike traps at (almost?) the same time in BHC.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Plus you can run a fucking Vaal Discipline, if you can die through Vaal Disc then i dont know what to say at that point other than its probably in the best interest of that person to try harder.

Are you seriously implying that people will always have Vaal discipline when going through lab traps?

If youre hit by a spike trap its intended that you get stuck inside, the only time that isnt the case is when immortal call or some sort of desync with the game happens, even then that means the next trap wont pop yet because its either a linear trap or a patern in which itll be empty and the next set will be up.

Youre just making up a fuck ton of excuses, you get enough souls to use vaal disc in every area EASILY. Whatd you do buy your account ? According to what ive seen YOU have a CI BV Pathfinder soo im curious as to how you hit 96 yet someone dont understand the labyrinth interaction AT ALL, your characters nor your lack of knowledge make no sense for the characters you own.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

If youre hit by a spike trap its intended that you get stuck inside, the only time that isnt the case is when immortal call or some sort of desync with the game happens,

Whether it is "intended" to get stuck or not: The gameplay reality is that this is not always the case. For me it happens often enough to be relevant.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

even then that means the next trap wont pop yet because its either a linear trap or a patern in which itll be empty and the next set will be up.

Whether it is normally possible to be double-hit by spike traps or not I dont know. Nor do I want to argue the point.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Youre just making up a fuck ton of excuses, you get enough souls to use vaal disc in every area EASILY.

No you dont. I remember leaving Izaro fight and getting to trap area without any monsters at all. This is relatively rare but it happens. In any case: If you have to kill stuff for Vaal Discipline you are at a disadvantage.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

curious as to how you hit 96 yet someone dont understand the labyrinth interaction AT ALL, your characters nor your lack of knowledge make no sense for the characters you own.

I am curious about this supposed "lack of knowledge" that you have repeatedly claimed.

Nice, i like the part where you completely dodged the part about buying the account, guess that just furthers my suspicious in the first place as to why you dont know anything concerning the interactions of Traps and how CI+VP functions in the labyrinth.



Done arguing here because its clearly a waste of time, you just want to keep pretending to be knowledgeable but yet your comments previous show exactly what i meant. The fact that you dont know its DESIGNED to stop you in place when you hit a spike trap is further evidence of that.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Nice, i like the part where you completely dodged the part about buying the account,

If you want somebody to respond to your personal attacks: I believe there are many willing people in this forum.
And if you want to find out the truth about this (instead of making a "personal attack") just look at my posting history and compare the posts. It should be possible to tell whether it is the same poster or not.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Spike traps shoot out of the ground in a square area, either via a timer or when its pressure plate is stepped on, taking 1/4 of the player's effective hitpoints (including life pool and energy shield pool), apply bleeding, and locking them in place. Spike traps are impassable and block movement while they are out.

Your quote does not change the facts. One of the relevant facts is that it is (or at least was until recently; I cannot exclude the possibility of this being "fixed" now) possible to get hit by a spike trap and not get stuck in it. The frequency of it happening may have to do with me using WB. I do not know that.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

but yet your comments previous show exactly what i meant.

No idea what you mean.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Further evidence, you dont even fucking understand that you cant use vaal skills in izaros room. Souls reset on zoning. You only Vaal Disc in side areas on the way to Izaro. How do you not even understand that ? Izaros adds dont give souls either.

Care to quote where I supposedly said/implied that I can use Vaal skill vs Izaro?

Lmao, whatever floats your boat buddy. Your posting history just makes you that much more suspect seeing as theres nearly a THREE YEAR GAP between account creation and posting anything at all. Which just soo happens to be around the same time your highest level characters progressed to where they were :D

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Lmao, whatever floats your boat buddy. Your posting history just makes you that much more suspect seeing as theres nearly a THREE YEAR GAP between account creation and posting anything at all. Which just soo happens to be around the same time your highest level characters progressed to where they were :D

So my posts are around the same time I actually played? If so I dont see your point (== lack of logic). Or do you mean something else?