[2.6] CI HoWA ST - Uber / Shaper / Guardians Down - Budget Friendly?

Thats actually a really good idea.. Cant believe i havent thought about this thank you!. Also ~ thoughts on FA vs added L dmg?
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KoreanQTXO wrote:
Thats actually a really good idea.. Cant believe i havent thought about this thank you!. Also ~ thoughts on FA vs added L dmg?

I think that FA results in a bit more damage - but it's close.
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frost21 wrote:
Hey guys I've not had a lot of time to play recently but want to take on guardians/endgame bosses like Shaper and Uber Atziri.


I was wondering if my gear is good enough for guardians yet and what to improve on my gear next? (Have about 10ex worth to spend)


@ 9.9k ES about and 35.5k GMP in hideout with wrath/disc on and with golem.





I still am using some resist nodes since I wasnt able to get resist capped with my current gear, few percent short.

What should I change/upgrade first? I know my vink flask isn't the proper one with penetration either, is that a huge help over my current one?


Thanks.




Yall think I'm ready to try guardians in my current gear? Have two of the four maps so far and will probably try them later today.
Gear-wise... easily. Shaper too if you know the fight (get a Vinktar's with pen though).
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Last edited by Aias_o_Telamonios#0275 on May 7, 2017, 3:51:34 PM
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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:
Gear-wise... easily. Shaper too if you know the fight (get a Vinktar's with pen though).



Alright thanks, any specific mods I should watch out for on guardian maps? Have a Hydra one with more monster life (not sure if increased boss health makes that much hrader) and Ele weakness..



Also is Vink's flask with pen that much better? Will try to get one later today and replace my current one with that.


Thanks.
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frost21 wrote:
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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:
Gear-wise... easily. Shaper too if you know the fight (get a Vinktar's with pen though).



Alright thanks, any specific mods I should watch out for on guardian maps? Have a Hydra one with more monster life (not sure if increased boss health makes that much hrader) and Ele weakness..



Also is Vink's flask with pen that much better? Will try to get one later today and replace my current one with that.


Thanks.
The only mod I worry about is elemental reflect - for that I swap out my weapon elemental damage for a leech gem instead.

The Vinktar's with penetration is much better.
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Snorri_Skjoelsen wrote:
Hi there, guys!

Here's my gear and I need ya suggestions on how to improve the DPS and mebbe the QoL:



Second Atziri's or Vinktar flask instead of the wise oak?
Right now I have around 45-50 ex. Not enuf to get a 950+ ES chest but the amount is okay to buy some minor stuff like opal rings.
It's around 46k DPS with GMP & l.golem on in the ho.
The wise oak is amazingly useful as long as you have more lightning resist than anything else. I'd keep it for sure.

The quicksilver needs to go, though. I use a Silver instead, with bleed on it, as that's the only thing we really still fear after running uber lab. Folks will use Sulphur or Granite instead of the silver, depending on your playstyle.
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Nice guide, but I'm forever having to double-check what levels/quality are optimal, so I've "prettied up" your gem list and added level/quality indicators for you to fill out (I guessed some initial values)! :)

Key and examples:
<Gem>(<Level>[<+|>][<quality>])
(3) = level 3 with 0% quality
(21+20) = level 21 with 20% quality
(20+22) = level 20 with 22% quality
(21|22) = (level 21 with 20% quality) OR (level 20 with 22% quality)


Spoiler

(3L) Whirling Blades(20+20) - Faster Attacks(21|22) - Fortify(2+20)

(3L) Cast When Damage Taken(1) - Immortal Call(3) - Increased Duration(21|22)

(3L) Vaal Haste(20) - Vaal Discipline(20) - Increased Duration(21|22)

(3L) Discipline(21) - Wrath(21) - Enlighten(3)
Enlighten is up to you. Level 2+ will give you less mana reservation, meaning a larger mana pool, which you do want for quality of life.
Swap Wrath for Purity of Elements(21) when doing Elemental Weakness maps. I can 100% assure you that you will not be capped on resists in those maps with this build, so Purity is a must.

(4-6L) Spectral Throw(21+20) - Greater Multiple Projectiles(21+20) - Weapon Elemental Damage(21+20) - Elemental Focus(21+20) - Lightning Penetration(21+20) - Added Lightning Damage(21+20)
This is in order of importance. Drop Added Lightning Damage in a 5L, drop Lightning Penetration in a 4L.

Socket these gems into your 3L setups. They do not require links, so you can drop them in and they will work fine. Having all 3 of these gems is a must.

Spoiler

Lightning Golem(21) --> Attack Speed buff, temporary lightning dmg aura it gives is nice too.

Flame Dash(20) --> Quality of life. Ledges / fences / stairs are annoying. Dash past them.

Ancestral Protector(21) --> This is here purely for the attack speed buff. You can socket this with faster attacks if you decide that you want it to help with single target DPS.



Edit: Fixed Fortify Q.
Last edited by Nightyb#1521 on May 9, 2017, 12:27:00 AM
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Nightyb wrote:
Nice guide, but I'm forever having to double-check what levels/quality are optimal, so I've "prettied up" your gem list and added level/quality indicators for you to fill out (I guessed some initial values)! :)

Key and examples:
<Gem>(<Level>[<+|>][<quality>])
(3) = level 3 with 0% quality
(21+20) = level 21 with 20% quality
(20+22) = level 20 with 22% quality
(21|22) = (level 21 with 20% quality) OR (level 20 with 22% quality)


Spoiler

(3L) Whirling Blades(20+20) - Faster Attacks(21|22) - Fortify(2)

(3L) Cast When Damage Taken(1) - Immortal Call(3) - Increased Duration(21|22)

(3L) Vaal Haste(20) - Vaal Discipline(20) - Increased Duration(21|22)

(3L) Discipline(21) - Wrath(21) - Enlighten(3)
Enlighten is up to you. Level 2+ will give you less mana reservation, meaning a larger mana pool, which you do want for quality of life.
Swap Wrath for Purity of Elements(21) when doing Elemental Weakness maps. I can 100% assure you that you will not be capped on resists in those maps with this build, so Purity is a must.

(4-6L) Spectral Throw(21+20) - Greater Multiple Projectiles(21+20) - Weapon Elemental Damage(21+20) - Elemental Focus(21+20) - Lightning Penetration(21+20) - Added Lightning Damage(21+20)
This is in order of importance. Drop Added Lightning Damage in a 5L, drop Lightning Penetration in a 4L.

Socket these gems into your 3L setups. They do not require links, so you can drop them in and they will work fine. Having all 3 of these gems is a must.

Spoiler

Lightning Golem(21) --> Attack Speed buff, temporary lightning dmg aura it gives is nice too.

Flame Dash(20) --> Quality of life. Ledges / fences / stairs are annoying. Dash past them.

Ancestral Protector(21) --> This is here purely for the attack speed buff. You can socket this with faster attacks if you decide that you want it to help with single target DPS.


Nice work... Unfortunately, the OP has abandoned the build, and the rest of us don't have the ability to edit his posts. :(
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
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Nightyb wrote:
Nice guide, but I'm forever having to double-check what levels/quality are optimal, so I've "prettied up" your gem list and added level/quality indicators for you to fill out (I guessed some initial values)! :)

Key and examples:
<Gem>(<Level>[<+|>][<quality>])
(3) = level 3 with 0% quality
(21+20) = level 21 with 20% quality
(20+22) = level 20 with 22% quality
(21|22) = (level 21 with 20% quality) OR (level 20 with 22% quality)


Spoiler

(3L) Whirling Blades(20+20) - Faster Attacks(21|22) - Fortify(2)

(3L) Cast When Damage Taken(1) - Immortal Call(3) - Increased Duration(21|22)

(3L) Vaal Haste(20) - Vaal Discipline(20) - Increased Duration(21|22)

(3L) Discipline(21) - Wrath(21) - Enlighten(3)
Enlighten is up to you. Level 2+ will give you less mana reservation, meaning a larger mana pool, which you do want for quality of life.
Swap Wrath for Purity of Elements(21) when doing Elemental Weakness maps. I can 100% assure you that you will not be capped on resists in those maps with this build, so Purity is a must.

(4-6L) Spectral Throw(21+20) - Greater Multiple Projectiles(21+20) - Weapon Elemental Damage(21+20) - Elemental Focus(21+20) - Lightning Penetration(21+20) - Added Lightning Damage(21+20)
This is in order of importance. Drop Added Lightning Damage in a 5L, drop Lightning Penetration in a 4L.

Socket these gems into your 3L setups. They do not require links, so you can drop them in and they will work fine. Having all 3 of these gems is a must.

Spoiler

Lightning Golem(21) --> Attack Speed buff, temporary lightning dmg aura it gives is nice too.

Flame Dash(20) --> Quality of life. Ledges / fences / stairs are annoying. Dash past them.

Ancestral Protector(21) --> This is here purely for the attack speed buff. You can socket this with faster attacks if you decide that you want it to help with single target DPS.




Most of those are right, however fortify is best 1/20 to get the extra duration (however small) from quality.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519

Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521

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