[2.6] CI HoWA ST - Uber / Shaper / Guardians Down - Budget Friendly?

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ResNulliusx wrote:

Can I use a pair of Skyforths instead of getting Unwavering Stance? Or should I just sell 'em to further fund this? I haven't started anything, but i'm really tempted to do so.

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hankinsohl wrote:

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Waycoolozs wrote:

Agree with all but Point Blank not requried

Adding to this:

Point blank would likely be good for Blade Flurry, but for Spectral Throw it's probably a DPS loss.

The reason for this is that Spectral Throw can do damage twice: once while outbound and then once more on the return provided that at least 0.3 sec have elapsed between the hits (actually, it's possible to hit mobs more than twice by zipping around, provided that 0.3 sec elapse between each hit).

So although Point Blank may increase the initial hit damage, assuming you're in close proximity, the return hit is penalized - probably a net gain of zero.

And, of course, for mobs at a distance, you'll do less damage with Point Blank.

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boonobosMike wrote:

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hankinsohl wrote:

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Waycoolozs wrote:

Agree with all but Point Blank not requried

Adding to this:

Point blank would likely be good for Blade Flurry, but for Spectral Throw it's probably a DPS loss.

The reason for this is that Spectral Throw can do damage twice: once while outbound and then once more on the return provided that at least 0.3 sec have elapsed between the hits (actually, it's possible to hit mobs more than twice by zipping around, provided that 0.3 sec elapse between each hit).

So although Point Blank may increase the initial hit damage, assuming you're in close proximity, the return hit is penalized - probably a net gain of zero.

And, of course, for mobs at a distance, you'll do less damage with Point Blank.

Point blank doesn't work with blade flurry.

I forgot to be more precise.The op is struggling with dmg on bosses so i made the sugestion taking that into account.With slow proj, point blank is boost in damage.

In terms of mapping it becomes good when you have enough damage so you just one shot packs and you don't rely on the return damage.Otherwise yes, in his case,at best it does nothing.

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hankinsohl wrote:

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ResNulliusx wrote:

Can I use a pair of Skyforths instead of getting Unwavering Stance? Or should I just sell 'em to further fund this? I haven't started anything, but i'm really tempted to do so.

Skyforths will work - but you'll probably want to go Crit HoWA in that case. There's a separate crit HoWA thread if this interests you.

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ResNulliusx wrote:

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hankinsohl wrote:

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ResNulliusx wrote:

Can I use a pair of Skyforths instead of getting Unwavering Stance? Or should I just sell 'em to further fund this? I haven't started anything, but i'm really tempted to do so.

Skyforths will work - but you'll probably want to go Crit HoWA in that case. There's a separate crit HoWA thread if this interests you.

I've seen ziggy/mathil's youtube video about crit and non-crit howa, do you think it's worth it? It's basically the same gear just a little different tree?

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hankinsohl wrote:

>> Point blank doesn't work with blade flurry.
Good point, LOL. I tend to mis-think of that as a projectile attack, when in fact, it isn't.

However, PB isn't worthwhile even for single target, and especially for pack clearing.

For bosses, use slower proj and face tank - point blank doesn't help since you'll hit twice with slower proj.

For pack clearing, mobs at range take less damage with point blank - it's very likely going to be slower.