[2.4 Video] LULFinder Malice COC Discharge. Shaper in 4mins15sec, NO Legacy VINKTAR

@Giaocolam

Could u tell the bandit set up for boss killing. As far as I figured out: skill/skill/power charge
My current set up is: skill/attack speed/power charge (just removed from skill tree for the momment)

Ive made 3x time guardiands: The only Phoenix hard - just need to grab ruby flask and everything is smooth.

Whats your tip will be for this?

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Giaocolam wrote:

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SToNeD2k9 wrote:

I really like thew new three. is there a viable way to use it with 1 curse setup?

Use 1 Purity instead. If you want to use Haste then you need to respect 4 points from Throatseeker nodes to get Charisma reverse node (3points) and 4% node near CI (1 point)

nono misunderstanding...sry my english...
i mean is it worth spending some regrets to get to arcane chemistry in a 1curse setup by leaving out the acc points?

and what i dont get...why the PCOC? u gain charges via volls anyway?


i really really love this build <3

BTW - Phoenix guardian a bit harsh is it worth to swap rumi's with dying sun and add to it chalice?

like -quick-luckycrits-chalice-vinkt-dyingsun?

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_Immune_ wrote:

Ty and ya I was running a few maps with pcoc since I finished my build mostly. I see the difference. Thank you for answering. Ill post my setup and first shaper kill with this setup once I level some more. I am only 80 and clearing t15-16's with ezz

Sweet xD the build scale really well with high level !! so there's still room to gain

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SToNeD2k9 wrote:

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Giaocolam wrote:

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SToNeD2k9 wrote:

I really like thew new three. is there a viable way to use it with 1 curse setup?

Use 1 Purity instead. If you want to use Haste then you need to respect 4 points from Throatseeker nodes to get Charisma reverse node (3points) and 4% node near CI (1 point)

nono misunderstanding...sry my english...
i mean is it worth spending some regrets to get to arcane chemistry in a 1curse setup by leaving out the acc points?

and what i dont get...why the PCOC? u gain charges via volls anyway?

i really really love this build <3

Hi it's worth to get arcane chemistry, because your Flask will need lesser charge, which mean it'll refill faster, more stable.

I see you still need accuracy, because you havent changed gem setup yet. I've wrote the reason why i changed to this gem setup in my guide, if you miss it you can read again. Basically you scale cyclone by using pure movement speed, so you dont need faster attack, replace it with Add accuracy.
You can still have 91% accu with ice golem up.

Why PCOC, because it doesnt need lv 21, 2nd because Bladevortex is broken. Unlike other skill, which only creat 1 charge. Bladevortex and Orb of storm can creat multiple. So it'll make your charges always full -> proc more, proc at full charges -> higher DPS.

2nd discharge is a hit or miss, when you have good RNG, it'll deal actual dps, PCOC is just better i guess.

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iwonderwice wrote:

BTW - Phoenix guardian a bit harsh is it worth to swap rumi's with dying sun and add to it chalice?

like -quick-luckycrits-chalice-vinkt-dyingsun?

Hi, Phoenix is pretty ez i guess, you dont need chalice at it :( the Little phoenix spawn enough charges for you, and it also let your Boot enchant always work.

Just remember to kill those little phoenix, you just need 1 shield charge they die already, dont tank them. 2-3 of them hit you while taking Phoenix triple slash will take you back to town.

Was thinking about variations. Doing it ez unless I roll 4x projectile(hard mode xD)

BTW does culling strike and BV works? Kinkda want to get in setup for lasthitting.

thanks for the reply and ive read ur build again.

so...pcoc or 21 discharge?

Thanks for sharing :)
So whats the new gem setup for 5G1B ?
And still confused about "scale cyclone by using full movement speed", can someone explain it for me in detail. Many of my jewels have attack speed :(
Thanks.

what is your crit rate with ice golem and with/without power charges with cyclone, shield charge and discharge with this setup?

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Taejaccl wrote:

Thanks for sharing :)
So whats the new gem setup for 5G1B ?
And still confused about "scale cyclone by using full movement speed", can someone explain it for me in detail. Many of my jewels have attack speed :(
Thanks.

if 5G1B then you can use the same setup.

Cyclone scale with both movement speed and attack speed.

When you use Cyclone, you will move to your mouse pointer. It'll slash twice instantly with 50% less dmg, and then slash a few more times while you moving. (those few more times based on your attack speed).

When your movement speed is too high, the time you need to move to your mouse pointer will be shortened.

You wont get much additional slash from attack speed, because the travel distance is too short but you'll get more Instant slash from re-cast cyclone right after it finish.

In short, if you have too high Movement speed, Attack speed nolonger scale well with Cyclone.

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ArkamHatchet wrote:

what is your crit rate with ice golem and with/without power charges with cyclone, shield charge and discharge with this setup?

84% with shield charge full charges i think. Cyclone is around 59% with full charges.

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I think this tree is more efficient... lightning damage offers 46% lightning damage + 15% crit multi over just 54% crit multi. Has more es, better crit chance, +1 max lightning res is good for ele reflect, lose 1 jewel socket but that is okay.

This tree is meant for legacy vinktars however.