[2.4 Video] LULFinder Malice COC Discharge. Shaper in 4mins15sec, NO Legacy VINKTAR

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gm08872 wrote:

any chance you could post a small leveling tree mayb like 20/40/60 bout to start leveling this when i get home from work

Hi, you should leveling a pathfinder using any CI BV build, it's meta and very easy to start with.

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Glycool wrote:

@Giaocolam Thanks, this build is amazing, very fun to play :D
I have a little question about the skill duration nodes in the skill tree, is it really usefull to take them, i mean what skill benefits the most from these nodes ?

It's only need at long boss fight, and it's pretty important.

Skills which was benefit by it (most ->less) are : Blade vortex ->Vaal Haste, Vaal discipline-> Totem.


Your blade vortex last longer, you'll have more stacks, which give you alot of charges (Power charge, flask charges), without it your dps will lower, and harder to sustain Vinktar.

It doesnt need when mapping, because bosses often die in few sec :-/ You can respect these 4 points for extra ES

I really like thew new three. is there a viable way to use it with 1 curse setup?

are you only leeching from vinktar i noticed the other versions run dicharge on the cospri

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SToNeD2k9 wrote:

I really like thew new three. is there a viable way to use it with 1 curse setup?

Use 1 Purity instead. If you want to use Haste then you need to respect 4 points from Throatseeker nodes to get Charisma reverse node (3points) and 4% node near CI (1 point)

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gm08872 wrote:

are you only leeching from vinktar i noticed the other versions run dicharge on the cospri

Yes, mainly from vinktar, enchant on bot does help alot on mapping, when you overspam your vinktar.

On boss, with chalice your Vinktar should up 100% of the time.

In case if you miss spin or the boss changed it phase so you cant regen charges, There's a 6 sec vaal discipline to fill the gap. You can equip 2x vaal discipline if you want. (no ancestral protector, or no reduced mana)

what is the bare minimum mana number I need? I have 46 mana with 1 curse + haste

is arcane chemistry needed with legacy vinktar, and also wouldnt druidic rite be better, 20% increased duration and 20% gained vs 15% reduced used, only 2 points and you could use the extra points on w/e else you wanted on the tree

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danciderus wrote:

what is the bare minimum mana number I need? I have 46 mana with 1 curse + haste

Hi 46 mana is more than enough with 2 elreon ring -7.

or 1 elreon ring -7 and 1 jew +2 mana gain on hit.


But 2 elreon ring and mana gain on hit jews will allow you to do no regen/60% regen alot more easier.

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gm08872 wrote:

is arcane chemistry needed with legacy vinktar, and also wouldnt druidic rite be better, 20% increased duration and 20% gained vs 15% reduced used, only 2 points and you could use the extra points on w/e else you wanted on the tree

Hi, with 15% reduced charges combine with 18% reduced from belt, make any 30 charges flask can use 3 times. It will help you ALOT, especially if you use legacyvinktar, your uptime always 100%.

20% duration is just around 1 sec. So you want to press 2 times x 8 sec, or 3 times x 7 sec?.

With the 6Link 2x curse setup. Is it worth it to run discharge in 6l setup even just doing maps or is pcoc at this point become better? Also do you run IAOE instead of conc in wep on clearing maps?

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_Immune_ wrote:

With the 6Link 2x curse setup. Is it worth it to run discharge in 6l setup even just doing maps or is pcoc at this point become better? Also do you run IAOE instead of conc in wep on clearing maps?

-Hi with optimize setup PCOC is better because it's stable and it doesnt need a lv 21.

-And yes im running IAOE in wep while clearing maps, because if i use Conc there's a chance to 1 shotted my self.

Without IAOE, a discharge with 50% increased Dyingsun can hit 2/3 screen

With IAOE, it can hit full screen.

But Discharge maximium targert = 20, so if you want big explode you can stick with IAOE.

Or you can use anything you want, Inc crit/Rarity/Controlled Destruct, or even life leech if you just want safe mapping

Ty and ya I was running a few maps with pcoc since I finished my build mostly. I see the difference. Thank you for answering. Ill post my setup and first shaper kill with this setup once I level some more. I am only 80 and clearing t15-16's with ezz