About coc

I've never played coc, but hey you know what, I'm going to make a coc build this league and make it strong and sexy.


I'm somehow very interested to try this now! I'm pretty sure even after the nerf it will be still very strong.

Well CoC Discharge is ''somewhat'' still viable .But CoC with 4-5 spells to proc is destroyed imo.Well we need to wait a few more days to be sure though...

I was thinking about making a coc build with physical spell like bladefall and vortex, with some poison mixed in it.

prolly a shadow dude.


I have done the same thing when they nerfed Flame Totem, never played that before the huge nerf long ago. And then I made a flame totem build and it was very efficient.

I'm mostly very excited about trying something new.

Pick an attack build, pick support gems which work both with the attack and the physical spell (added chaos, added fire, phys to lightning, added cold/lightning) and it will certainly work. The question is if it will be worth it to do this instead of just playing a standard attack build with 5 support gems instead of 3 + coc + spell.

The optimistic prognosis is it will be better unless you have a top-tier, super expensive rare weapon. The pessimistic: the same attack with 5 support gems and an easily accessible unique will be more or less the same or better, in which case it's officially rip coc.

I'm debating whether to try and find out for myself.

What about Ice Arrow LMP CoC Ice Spear (with it's new massive damage buff)?

Ice Arrow crits = Ice Spear which pretty much guaranteed crits on a CoC build = Frozen stuff everywhere. Use elementalist witch or heirophant resistance pierce you don't really need a shadow or ranger build too much.

The whole barrage / discharge screen explosion is a done thing, that's for sure.

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Bars wrote:

Pick an attack build, pick support gems which work both with the attack and the physical spell (added chaos, added fire, phys to lightning, added cold/lightning) and it will certainly work. The question is if it will be worth it to do this instead of just playing a standard attack build with 5 support gems instead of 3 + coc + spell.

I'm debating whether to try and find out for myself.

Red the patch the thing got a cooldown now, but also hit harder and proc at 100%

So I'm thinking about a very strong physical spell + poison and a 100% physical attack and try to hit very very hard per hit instead of going full attack speed. I'll try to get a lot of "more physical dmg" to boost both my attack and spell physical dmg, maybe some other things on the road.

My favorite CoC build was Tornado Shot - Cold Snap glad to see that should still be nice

coc quill rain is boned, thats for fkin sure.

my one coc build might still work a bit, just replace multistrike with something else. has very high poison damage and stuff. also would have to figure out the best skill to proc. probably bladefall though.

one of the biggest unseens nerfs about CoC is this. even if it works well still, CoC used to basically bypass reflect due to many hits for lowish damage each, meaning with vaal pact or some type of leech you didn't instantly nuke yourself to reflect, and you definitely wouldn't one shot yourself.
with this nerf, they took the frequency of procs away but made them more powerful, meaning reflect will come back into play for all remaining CoC builds.

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BlaqWolf wrote:

What about Ice Arrow LMP CoC Ice Spear (with it's new massive damage buff)?

Ice Arrow crits = Ice Spear which pretty much guaranteed crits on a CoC build = Frozen stuff everywhere. Use elementalist witch or heirophant resistance pierce you don't really need a shadow or ranger build too much.

The whole barrage / discharge screen explosion is a done thing, that's for sure.

That sounds like a great idea, except when you consider these two alternatives:

1) Ice Arrow crit without CoC. Frozen stuff everywhere *and* you can scale the damage from your passive tree and gear more easily. You can also stack attack speed without gimping your dps.

2) Ice spear self-cast. Frozen stuff everywhere *and* you can scale the damage from your passive tree and gear more easily. You don't even need to use a bow! And you can cast faster too.

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Spy_Magnum wrote:

Well CoC Discharge is ''somewhat'' still viable .But CoC with 4-5 spells to proc is destroyed imo.Well we need to wait a few more days to be sure though...

Actually it going to be the other way around.. Discharge now has 35% LESS damage when Triggered along with only being able to proc 2 times per second now as well.. So.. Yeah.. RIP!

As for multi spell there's still hope.. The more spells you run the more procs you'll get and along with the 39% MORE damage at lvl 20 it could end up being pretty decent with 3 spells. Thats 6 casts per second potentially (2 casts per spell) and since it is limited that much things like APS are not going to be near as important anymore so thats more points to go into more damage for spells. Also the 100% chance to proc means the same thing when it comes to crit as well.. You wont have to focus so much on crit so there's more points as well to go into damage somewhere.. Or defenses. Also means a Vagan Dagger isn't absolutely nessisary anymore meaning you could run a Rare with really good rolls instead like 100%+ Spell Crit and Spell damage and Crit Mutli..

COC will still be good you will just run it a little differently than before.. And you wont be dropping tons of Exalts on Voll's ammy and Chest anymore either.