SliverTongue Unique Is Poorly Made, Heres Why



Essentially bow users will have to run (if they want full benefits of the bow)

GMP - 26% less
Fork - 11% less
Chain - 31% less
(or use dead eye chain which makes it niche strictly to rangers...)


((Keep in mind players cannot run pierce support gem since it will counter the whole bow... so thats a %more multiplier, that this bow cant have. So another downside to the massive %less dmg))


= 68%(27% for deadeye builds) less dmg to get 100% crit chance/bleed/and guarnteed pierce.


Also you wont cause bleeding to your main targets unless you gem swap which is really (imo dumb) for a t16 unique that should be powerful. So Gem Swap is Mandatory on Bosses if you try to use the mechanics


It would have been better if the bow also said (with current mods on it)


Projectiles Fork /or/ Free +1 Chain /or/ Projectiles have 50% chance to pierce.


Then it could work


Otherwise its wayyy too niche and gets easily outclassed by a simple rare crafted bow.


This bow is a 100% bleed pierce bow and nothing else. The other mods might as well not exist on it.


The point of this post is to explain that none will use the chain/fork mechanic because its soo poorly made and people wont be able to support their bows with the amazing pierce support gem. Instead they will take a massive loss on damage and nothing else. For wat? For some bigger aoe?

People already can 1 shot the screen with a simple gmp Tornado shot, none has a reason to chain/fork with this bow. Other then some edge lord builds.

Im explaining its poorly designed and should be re-worked before release.
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Silvertongue...?
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Natharias wrote:
Silvertongue...?


Yes the new unique its on the front page of poe
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benjaminbona wrote:
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Natharias wrote:
Silvertongue...?


Yes the new unique its on the front page of poe


Yeah, just saw ZiggyD's vid. I really hate his voice.

Anyways, it seems a lot less powerful than Reach of the Council's free GMP. Tornado Shot without the less damage of GMP?

This bow looks like crap in comparison. But it seems like it will be a good addition to the game.
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Natharias wrote:
Silvertongue...?

It's not even in the game yet, yes .....



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benjqminbona wrote:


((Keep in mind players cannot run pierce support gem since it will counter the whole bow... so thats a %more multiplier, that this bow cant have. So another downside to the massive %less dmg))

No it wont, just use pierce and you will have free bleeding on everybody ....
Just use pierce and fork and you will get that plus the crit ...

Do you seriously think that they just took 2 min to design the thing ? Because that is about what how much time it looks like it took you to create this thread ( getting the idea included ).

This bow is not even in the game yet, they are game designers, they have started testing it to some extent, how arrogant is it to just jump on the occasion to say straigth away : "the design is poor" ??
The thread came out less than one hour ago .....

And you do not know either the rarity of the item, you don't know exactly how much it will drop, the availibility on the market, etc .... ( I did not watch the video, I cannot really right now so I may be missing some information, true ).

TLDR : wait for the freaking release so that you have actual information before saying "the design is poor" ...
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Aug 25, 2016, 2:22:40 AM
No, its not poorly made.

1. Remove the GMP setup it wont be needed when you Fork
2. Get Rigwalds Quills (Free Fork PLUS and additional 50% damage)
3. Dead Eyes Projectiles Chain 1 time is free.
4. Profit from 100% pierce off Chain and get free bleeding damage

TL;DR - Its no where near as many "less damage modifiers" as youre trying to put on it at all. Infact it opens up a free gem just like Reach does when you use it the way i listed.

Even if you want to put in LMP/GMP, its ONE less damage modifer BUT you get the Bleed, which is essentially a gem itself.
Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in!

Labyrinth salt farm miner.

"But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years.
Last edited by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Aug 25, 2016, 2:25:21 AM
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:
No, its not poorly made.

1. Remove the GMP setup it wont be needed when you Fork
2. Get Rigwalds Quills (Free Fork PLUS and additional 50% damage)
3. Dead Eyes Projectiles Chain 1 time is free.



So you just said you need a legacy item, lmp and to be a ranger dead eye and take a specific cluster.

In the end you still cannot use pierce support gem.
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benjaminbona wrote:
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:
No, its not poorly made.

1. Remove the GMP setup it wont be needed when you Fork
2. Get Rigwalds Quills (Free Fork PLUS and additional 50% damage)
3. Dead Eyes Projectiles Chain 1 time is free.



So you just said you need a legacy item, lmp and to be a ranger dead eye and take a specific cluster.

In the end you still cannot use pierce support gem.
You dont need to use the pierce support gem rofl.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Wolf

"Legacy"

Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in!

Labyrinth salt farm miner.

"But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years.
Last edited by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Aug 25, 2016, 2:26:39 AM
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Fruz wrote:
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Natharias wrote:
Silvertongue...?

It's not even in the game yet, yes .....



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benjqminbona wrote:


((Keep in mind players cannot run pierce support gem since it will counter the whole bow... so thats a %more multiplier, that this bow cant have. So another downside to the massive %less dmg))

No it wont, just use pierce and you will have free bleeding on everybody ....
Just use pierce and fork and you will get that plus the crit ...

Do you seriously think that they just took 2 min to design the thing ? Because that is about what how much time it looks like it took you to create this thread ( getting the idea included ).




Completely wrong

if you know the mechanics of this game, ud know that projectiles that pierce cannot fork.

So if the projectile cannot fork then u dont have the crit, if it pierces you have the bleed. So if you dont get the crit on the initial piercing hit then theres no reason to be using fork support gem.


Also i do know the rarity its a t16 unique boss drop only...

why do people like you with no information have to come and talk about stuff you really are not informed on.


This is my feedback to GGG and nothing else.
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You dont need to use the pierce support gem rofl.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Wolf



Its not about need... omg... face palm...

Pierce is a multiplier and almost all bow builds (especially physical) use it for its GG stats

You CANNOT run pierce support gem if you are planning on using the fork mechanic

Thats what im explaining , please learn game mechanics and gem mechanics as well as how the numbers and multipliers work.
Last edited by Bloomania#2606 on Aug 25, 2016, 2:28:42 AM

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