Atlas - are we being even more bottle-necked to meta only builds?

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ladish wrote:

ugh. Butcher "meta" even more why don't you.

I just want the term to die off. I'm not a linguist but can assume people that know or care about language hate how this term is used. Sure, its internet nerd land where we repeat what other people say to sound smart but its just annoying at this point. Meta-build, meta-items, meta-farm, meta meta meta I know what I'm talking about because I use the word meta a lot... /rant.

On topic, its just another "the sky if falling" thread to me. If you haven't accepted that some builds are better than others at doing certain things in this game I don't know what to tell you. Build diversity is still in a great place even though the hardest content can only be completed by a select few builds and its still possible for a ton of people to enjoy the game without doing the hardest content.

The system isn't out. Lets see how the nerfs go. If you don't like that the content is hard maybe HC isn't for you?

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Z_Fighters wrote:

Previously maps like this where just something that are "there" if you felt like being suicidal, but now they are going to feel like an intrinsic part of PoE's story and you wont feel complete without challenging them.

comedy gold

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whitelytning wrote:

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ladish wrote:

ugh. Butcher "meta" even more why don't you.

I just want the term to die off. I'm not a linguist but can assume people that know or care about language hate how this term is used. Sure, its internet nerd land where we repeat what other people say to sound smart but its just annoying at this point. Meta-build, meta-items, meta-farm, meta meta meta I know what I'm talking about because I use the word meta a lot... /rant.

On topic, its just another "the sky if falling" thread to me. If you haven't accepted that some builds are better than others at doing certain things in this game I don't know what to tell you. Build diversity is still in a great place even though the hardest content can only be completed by a select few builds and its still possible for a ton of people to enjoy the game without doing the hardest content.

The system isn't out. Lets see how the nerfs go. If you don't like that the content is hard maybe HC isn't for you?

and why do you assume so quickly people are talking about meta in the context of meta-physical, meta-gaming? obviously that makes no fucking sense, don't you think?

Meta just so happens to abbreviate also for:

Most

Efficient

Tactics

Available

is the context still wrong mr not a linguist? or would you still rather us not use "your word" anymore cause only smarty people can understand it.

lmao, people.

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I just want the term to die off. I'm not a linguist but can assume people that know or care about language hate how this term is used. Sure, its internet nerd land where we repeat what other people say to sound smart but its just annoying at this point. Meta-build, meta-items, meta-farm, meta meta meta I know what I'm talking about because I use the word meta a lot... /rant.

On topic, its just another "the sky if falling" thread to me. If you haven't accepted that some builds are better than others at doing certain things in this game I don't know what to tell you. Build diversity is still in a great place even though the hardest content can only be completed by a select few builds and its still possible for a ton of people to enjoy the game without doing the hardest content.

The system isn't out. Lets see how the nerfs go. If you don't like that the content is hard maybe HC isn't for you?

I'm not even going to reply to your "on-topic" discussion since you have missed the plot so entirely, you're in Africa buddy.

^Most efficient =/= viable

You just explained the therm and consequentially undermined the whole thread, no?

:)

Meta will always be superior if your main enjoyment is speed. If that's not your concern there are plenty of other options for you available in PoE.

Praise kuduku.

Peace,

-Boem-

MetaTriggered.
You metamad bro?
M I doing it m37ari73 m8?

Is there really a need to bump your own thread like a cat on acid?

ctrl+c something, press the "Quote" button, ctrl+v it, reply to it - rinse and repeat. Dont quadrupple post to reply to four people.

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Boem wrote:

The only ones enforcing the bottle-neck are the players themselves.

You can get extremely quirky builds into high end-game, specially since the introduction of ascendancy.

What you won't be able to do is keep up with the speed players. So the choice is simply

fun vs speed

The content will be harder with a quirky build, but that's self imposed if you go that route and makes for a lousy argument.

Generally meta builds incorporate defenses that make 95% of the content sleep inducing, again a choice the players themselves make.

Peace,

-Boem-

Sure, I get in normal mode it's a fun vs speed factor, but in hardcore it's a use about 3 options of builds or don't even get close.

I understand there has always been stronger than other builds, what I am trying to say is the discrepancy between the strongest builds and the next is fucking huge now and the game is so fucking black and white now, you either cheese the content completely or like I said, you don't even get close.

and to reply to other people, yes I have a problem when the hardest content can only be completed by a *select few* builds when that means, about 3, since I will never play Meta.

PoE attracted me due to its promise of build diversity, so I see no reason at all to copy and paste a build that has already been fleshed out completely, what the fuck is the point in that in PoE? you already know exactly how the build is going to function and play and know exactly what it is capable of already. I may as well just watch some other guy play it, since it's exactly the same *there is no point*

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whitelytning wrote:

MetaTriggered.
You metamad bro?
M I doing it m37ari73 m8?

are you feeling like a stupid jack a** so you had to type it out or what?

Man, have to be so careful now days on these Forums, mods lurking to close any thread at the first sign of a spat

^Atlas has extremely little to do with build diversity when looking at the differences between softcore and hardcore.

In hardcore the premise is "don't die ever".

In softcore the premise is "try not to die" with a gradual correlation to the hardcore premise if the desire is to reach higher levels.

It should be perfectly clear to any normal human being that the hardcore environment is more punishing on build diversity from the get-go without bringing AoW into the picture.

So if you play PoE for build diversity in the environment that actively discourages it, your a masochist.

Peace,

-Boem-