Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!

When you hit half of the screen passively with BV, there is not much positioning any more.

And no, your setup wont tank indefinitely the situation I mentioned.


That specific example ( with armour ) is the only thing that does not make perfect sense, I'll give you that.
Now it does not apply to all builds at all, and on top of that it's one of the least complaint of people regarding the lab (and for a good reason : it's almost irrelevant, basically no impact).
I don't think that I have ever ran into a situation where that tiny different would have any significant impact on anything, like seriously, and I don't think that you have either to be honest.
What would be the impact of 1500 life from Kaom's heart at most here ? Like 2% damage at most maybe ? And that is if you have at least 10k armour which means you use Kaom's, but still somewhat focus on armour, which people ... just don't.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Fruz wrote:
And no, your setup wont tank indefinitely the situation I mentioned.

Dont know, its my (educated, based on experimentation and math) guess - hence the "probably" wording. You saying otherwise without evidence doesnt change my guess.

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Fruz wrote:
Now it does not apply to all builds at all, and on top of that it's one of the least complaint of people regarding the lab (and for a good reason : it's almost irrelevant, basically no impact).

My complaint is not about gameplay relevance. I dislike it because thematically it does not make sense to me. And I did not complain about it because some other people ("popular") may or may not have complained about it before.

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Fruz wrote:
And that is if you have at least 10k armour which means you use Kaom's, but still somewhat focus on armour, which people ... just don't.

About using Kaom + armour: If I would have Kaoms (and use it in lab) then I would surely get 10K+ armour. Large part of it would be on the shield. Note that is is not a popularity statement either. Just how I would build a lab runner if that lab runner would use Kaoms armour.
No wonder it's lost, it's in the middle of the jungle!
Mind you, this isn't really that big of an issue either way because overstacking life won't really harm you, even if your armor is fully void you'll just take as much damage as everyone else, no harm done.

It isn't like, say, lightning thorns, where overstacking attack speed can blow up in your face if you don't know about it. You know, we have a guy doing a ton of small hits per second for very low damage thinking VP makes him safe from reflect because the reflected amount will be low too so he'll just outleech it. Hello Lightning Thorns and goodbye.

And if you don't know more life makes your armor less effective you'd just run into a spike field, go 'hey, these do almost as much damage as on my scrawny ranger' and you'll just pay attention from there. If you expected your invulnerable lab runner 40k armor juggerbeast to be fully impervious to spikes you'd probably be a bit disappointed, but again, I don't really see a problem with builds that had an advantage having a bit less.
Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.

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raics wrote:
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You are arguing gameplay. I am arguing "thematical consistency".
No wonder it's lost, it's in the middle of the jungle!
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Zrevnur wrote:
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raics wrote:
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You are arguing gameplay. I am arguing "thematical consistency".

Sure, it isn't intuitive, just saying we're lucky it's also inconsequential and most players won't ever notice it. There are other unintuitive things we aren't so lucky with and if percentage traps have a purpose this is the kind of collateral it wouldn't be worth abandoning it for.
Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.

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Zrevnur wrote:
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Fruz wrote:
And no, your setup wont tank indefinitely the situation I mentioned.

Dont know, its my (educated, based on experimentation and math) guess - hence the "probably" wording. You saying otherwise without evidence doesnt change my guess.

Fair enough, I won't get such a build just to try it ( I have a build using this chest though ).

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Zrevnur wrote:

About using Kaom + armour: If I would have Kaoms (and use it in lab) then I would surely get 10K+ armour. Large part of it would be on the shield. Note that is is not a popularity statement either. Just how I would build a lab runner if that lab runner would use Kaoms armour.

I understand that, I would also add some armour if I was planning to use that chest.


And about the armour being less effective in such cases, it's barely noticeable imho, so as I see it also as a "colateral damage" kind of thing too, well ....
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Lab is shit
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matt29234 wrote:
Lab is shit


matt29234, thank you for voicing your opinion on the shit labyrinth. I've added you to the list of names that have voiced a similar opinion, now 881 names. As the list grows longer our voice grows stronger.

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matt29234, has been added to the list after posting what might be the shortest post that has earned such a great honor of having earned a place on the list. With the tidal wave of such great PoE players being added to the list it is only a matter of time that GGG will fix the shitty labyrinth.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Turtledove wrote:
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matt29234 wrote:
Lab is shit


matt29234, thank you for voicing your opinion on the shit labyrinth. I've added you to the list of names that have voiced a similar opinion, now 881 names. As the list grows longer our voice grows stronger.

Here's matt29234's summary profile.

Guild:
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Joined:
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Total Forum Posts:
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matt29234, has been added to the list after posting what might be the shortest post that has earned such a great honor of having earned a place on the list. With the tidal wave of such great PoE players being added to the list it is only a matter of time that GGG will fix the shitty labyrinth.


That qualifies to be put on your list? And you wonder why they don't take you seriously?

I'm not saying the list may not have a use in the future, it just might not end up being what you had in mind...
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
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Xavathos wrote:
That qualifies to be put on your list? And you wonder why they don't take you seriously?

"they" == who?
No wonder it's lost, it's in the middle of the jungle!

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