Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!

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goetzjam wrote:

I mean god forbid there be anything left in this game that is deemed hardcore.

Removed the separately designed leagues, removed races, removed the quest for t1 items, now better remove anything else remaining.

It's pretty ironic that you have this attitude. I mean, you don't actually play the game. You can't, because you monitor this thread 24/7.

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The_Reporter wrote:

'You're' not as clever as you think you are.

english is not my native language, and i rape even my own language on the internetz for fast and easy communication. you perfectly got what i was saying. playing the grammar-nazi on top of it doesnt make you look better than (then? pls correct me :P) before :)

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Truper17 wrote:

It's pretty ironic that you have this attitude. I mean, you don't actually play the game. You can't, because you monitor this thread 24/7.

you all should stop wh.. erm complaining and simply play the game and PRACTICE, because practice and basic understanding of the mechanics is all that it takes to beat the lab :)

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goetzjam wrote:

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Truper17 wrote:

The lab has been and continues to be a miserable experience. Of course certain masochists would have it no other way, as only filthy casuals who never should have started playing PoE in the first place actually want to enjoy their games. Real gamers like them prefer to wallow in misery and wear the scars of self-flagellation proudly, as proof of their commitment and hard-core sensibilities.

Oh brother.

I mean god forbid there be anything left in this game that is deemed hardcore.

Removed the separately designed leagues, removed races, removed the quest for t1 items, now better remove anything else remaining.

I mean god forbid we distinguish between hardcore fun and hardcore misery. Did you hear that whooshing sound? Yeah, that was Truper17's point flying right over your head.

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

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Truper17 wrote:

The lab has been and continues to be a miserable experience. Of course certain masochists would have it no other way, as only filthy casuals who never should have started playing PoE in the first place actually want to enjoy their games. Real gamers like them prefer to wallow in misery and wear the scars of self-flagellation proudly, as proof of their commitment and hard-core sensibilities.

Oh brother.

I mean god forbid there be anything left in this game that is deemed hardcore.

Removed the separately designed leagues, removed races, removed the quest for t1 items, now better remove anything else remaining.

I mean god forbid we distinguish between hardcore fun and hardcore misery. Did you hear that whooshing sound? Yeah, that was Truper17's point flying right over your head.

God forbid a lot of things in this thread.

...but not enough.

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Jgizle wrote:

No one cares about how many people you have in your list that dislike lab. GGG already said they intentionally released lab expecting a minority to dislike it. Cherry picking supporters is not going to support your cause. You think anyone cares if less than 1000 vocal players dislike lab or not, alt or not. No. Especially not when player retention is higher....

I already made it known you are going to need at least 20k supporters. At the rate you been going since the release of lab this is never going to happen.

Just be happy you get to do lab 1 less time when 3.0 comes. Thats the only change you will see.

Sorry Jgizle, if you've said that before then you're still being irrational. I doubt that 20k players have ever even posted on the forums. With such thinking it would not make sense to even create a Feedback and Suggestions forum.

I see a lot of people complaining about something they only have to do 4 times per character.


Once you've acquired your ascendancy points, you can ignore the lab entirely if you want to. Do you want a lab enchant? Buy it.


I used to speed run merc/uber lab for the daily unique jewel rewards. It was a TON of fun. Some people enjoy farming keys and chests (which is super rewarding). Some people enjoy offering lab services.

And then...some people don't enjoy lab. Oh well? I don't enjoy half of the map pool. Guess what I do? I sell the maps and run other ones instead.


The fact that you think your tears and complaints matter more than the enjoyment of those who ACTUALLY bother doing that content regularly is so pretentious, it makes me wanna puke.

Lab is a "love it or hate it" content. But it represents exactly what it is about; difficult(lol, no) trials in order to gain a huge amount of power. And you don't have to do it over and over if you don't like it.




If you feel you HAVE to post about how much you hate lab, you're probably doing it out of frustration. Frustration that you died in lab again to a trap. From a misplay. To a 1 shot on your low EHP character vs a 3 buff Izaro. I generally find that hilarious. But when a thread gets this big, hilarity becomes sadness and I get worried. This many people crying about the one bit of content that actually has some challenge just might force changes to happen and that would suck. It would mean crybabies won. That's not a good thing.

I like the labs, Its awesome EXP at level. It has more perks versus any of the negatives, and I seen none in my honest opinion. So shrug the chip off your shoulder, and get good. Play the content as it is intended. Because if its to hard to complete, then your character or yourself need more improvement. Its like one GGG member said. Its a skill check, lime Volatile Blood. =D

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Simplesim45 wrote:

But when a thread gets this big, hilarity becomes sadness and I get worried. This many people crying about the one bit of content that actually has some challenge just might force changes to happen and that would suck. It would mean crybabies won. That's not a good thing.

You can say that about literally any well-populated thread in Feedback that is critical of the game.

Specific feedback is either well-reasoned or it is not. Useful to GGG or not. And Labyrinth feedback threads have seen a LOT of both categories.

I'd argue that this particular thread isn't a Labyrinth feedback thread, however. Instead, it's a feedback feedback thread. o_O

How meta!

Seriously, though, it's just a reaction to a lot of "Your criticisms don't matter, because you represent such a small portion of the playerbase." Which is just about the most retarded counter-criticism anyone can come up with, because it suggests that every single piece of feedback in this forum with fewer than 200 or so threads dedicated to it (that would be... almost all of them?) ought to be ignored.

Because this is a reactive thread, people can ignore it and it will go away. Or people can continue to bump it (because they hate the message it implies) and drown in their own irony.

The latter is far more likely.

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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Simplesim45 wrote:

But when a thread gets this big, hilarity becomes sadness and I get worried. This many people crying about the one bit of content that actually has some challenge just might force changes to happen and that would suck. It would mean crybabies won. That's not a good thing.

You can say that about literally any well-populated thread in Feedback that is critical of the game.

Specific feedback is either well-reasoned or it is not. Useful to GGG or not. And Labyrinth feedback threads have seen a LOT of both categories.

I'd argue that this particular thread isn't a Labyrinth feedback thread, however. Instead, it's a feedback feedback thread. o_O

How meta!

Seriously, though, it's just a reaction to a lot of "Your criticisms don't matter, because you represent such a small portion of the playerbase." Which is just about the most retarded counter-criticism anyone can come up with, because it suggests that every single piece of feedback in this forum with fewer than 200 or so threads dedicated to it (that would be... almost all of them?) ought to be ignored.

Because this is a reactive thread, people can ignore it and it will go away. Or people can continue to bump it (because they hate the message it implies) and drown in their own irony.

The latter is far more likely.

This isn't about them representing a small portion of the playerbase. It's about them representing a smaller or similarly sized portion as the ones saying they enjoy the lab.

However, the big difference here is that it's not like when you wanna have sex and your wife doesn't. In that case, there won't be any sex. In this case, I can play the lab and you can play something else and have sex only when you want babies(ascendancy points).

The people complaining want the lab removed or changed entirely or made a million times easier. They shouldn't get their way.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1817180

statistics of breah, look at top 10 most created areas #7...

"lab is so hated"