Martial law in Turkey - possible Coup

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Schmodderhengst wrote:

As I also have mentioned before this can´t be compared to Hitler - yet.

I chuckled because I remember you unironically called Trump Hitler several times on these forums. Interesting mental gymnastics here.

Well, Erdogan needs to target a minority (does Kurds count?).

this is quite interesting to watch you see the birth of a full blown dictator with a staged coup arrested enemy of states ( handy such a list 24h later efficient as fuck)
aslong as he buys refugees he will be europes best buddy

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NeroNoah wrote:

Well, Erdogan needs to target a minority (does Kurds count?).

Kurds, Alevi, Armenians, secularists, atheists, they all count... Erdo regime already killed plenty of Kurds & Alevites (mostly in Syria, by proxy).

Apparently attacks on Alevites are already happening.

For fuck's sake. I knew Turkey was going to go to shit sooner or later, but just expected a shitty Maduro (vanilla authoritarianism with Islam flavor) more than going ISIS. That makes...Jordan the less fucked up country in the region...maybe.

Radical Islam will take the place of Communism at this rate (meh, it did it already).

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NeroNoah wrote:

That makes...Jordan the less fucked up country in the region...maybe.

Jordan looks stable, but this could change quickly. Plenty of radical islamists there too. Imo, the next big explosion of violence will be Egypt, eventually, and it will be as bad as in Syria. It's a boiling pot, the base of the Muslim brotherhood, with ISIS cells operating there too.

The Arab spring brought only war and more poverty to the region. Because of terror atacks, tourism dropped badly (esp. in Tunisia), which is causing more poverty in the region, with poverty being a breeding ground for radical islam... vicious cycle.

[Disclaimer, I'm just talking about muslim countries (obviously Israel is less shitty).]

The Arab Spring remembers me the French Revolution. Yes, it was a shitshow before, but Robespierre getting to power didn't make the things any better.

I expect things to continue being bad for a good while. I hope things get fixed eventually...with a lot of pain, sure.

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Syria isnt fucked up, it just gets invaded by the wests terrorists.

Syria is completely wrecked. The total destruction of major urban areas is not the worst thing - the deep sectarian / tribal hate that will last for several generations is much worse. As a country Syria is done, it doesn't exist anymore. Similar scenario to Yugoslavia, just with a lot more slaughter and beheadings.

And you can tone down that "west terrorist" nonsense. Most radical islamists are homegrown (al-Nusra, Ahrar al-Sham), followed by foreigners from the ME (mostly joined ISIS), and only then followed by a limited number of radical muslims from the West (almost exclusively joined ISIS).

The west is at worst, indirectly responsible for sunni terrorists (law of unintended consequences and all that). Being trigger happy and caring too much about communists has that effect. And OIL.