[3.8] The Warchief | [Facebreaker] Ancestral Warchief | 2m dps+ | Uber Farmer| Elder & Shaper Down

I just came back from PoE after a long time and find this interesting.

I have some questions / clarification:
1) I just want to clarify that the high budget and low budget version are different gear wise is mostly the shield (and maybe plus the boot).

2) Also, in the leveling tree it's for the low budget version. Any recommendation or leveling tree for the high budget version?

3) Finally, the pastebin / gear link shows some difference in the 6th gem in chest.

So belly would use faster attack while loreweave uses ruthless?

4) does it matter whether to use vaal grace vs vaal haste?

Thanks,
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kchan821 wrote:
I just came back from PoE after a long time and find this interesting.

I have some questions / clarification:
1) I just want to clarify that the high budget and low budget version are different gear wise is mostly the shield (and maybe plus the boot).


The shield gives us Blood Magic and +1 Totems, this is why we need a new tree and some gear changes. Overall is ~ the same dmg but some player like the playstyle more than the beginner with 2 totems

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kchan821 wrote:
2) Also, in the leveling tree it's for the low budget version. Any recommendation or leveling tree for the high budget version?


take a look at the high tree and adapt it. its nearly the same pathing

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kchan821 wrote:
3) Finally, the pastebin / gear link shows some difference in the 6th gem in chest.

So belly would use faster attack while loreweave uses ruthless?


i dont see a difference in the PoB, but as i mentioned in the detailed gear section:
"Switch Increased Area to Conc Effect for Hard Bosses. You can switch Faster Attacks with Ruthless if you feel you have enough attack speed (wich is also a dmg increase)"

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kchan821 wrote:
4) does it matter whether to use vaal grace vs vaal haste?

Thanks,


vaaö grace gives dodge chance, so its defensive. Vaal Haste give movement/attack/cast speed, so its offensive
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Last edited by guggelhupf on Nov 21, 2018, 12:53:46 PM
I had a theorycraft idea that I wanted your opinion on:

With the change in the tree now, what do you think of taking the nodes through Righteous Army to Spiritual Aid instead of the nodes to Retaliation. I know Totems don't count as minions, but with Spiritual Aid the damage applies to you (and your totems) anyway. In your PoB (low budget tree) it adds 16k damage per totem. You would lose some attack speed, but gain almost 70% increased damage from the tree vs 42%. It's also right next to Ancestral Bond and would be easy to grab for a big damage boost early.

I'm planning on league starting with your build next league and I thought it might be easier to grab those nodes in case it takes me a while to get facebreakers as it's generic damage that will work two handed, dual wield OR unarmed. Thoughts?
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Nostrapapas wrote:
I had a theorycraft idea that I wanted your opinion on:

With the change in the tree now, what do you think of taking the nodes through Righteous Army to Spiritual Aid instead of the nodes to Retaliation. I know Totems don't count as minions, but with Spiritual Aid the damage applies to you (and your totems) anyway. In your PoB (low budget tree) it adds 16k damage per totem. You would lose some attack speed, but gain almost 70% increased damage from the tree vs 42%. It's also right next to Ancestral Bond and would be easy to grab for a big damage boost early.

I'm planning on league starting with your build next league and I thought it might be easier to grab those nodes in case it takes me a while to get facebreakers as it's generic damage that will work two handed, dual wield OR unarmed. Thoughts?


in my tree i loose 30k dps with your route and i loose ~20 dex too wich can be very helpfull
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The plus 1 totem shield craft should be a huge boost for this build. If I’m going with the Cheiftan version what auras would I use since I won’t be going blood magic?

I was thinking herald of purity, ash and blasphemy temp chains. I play HC.
Does this build still legit on the latest build version?
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HOLLOMI wrote:
The plus 1 totem shield craft should be a huge boost for this build. If I’m going with the Cheiftan version what auras would I use since I won’t be going blood magic?

I was thinking herald of purity, ash and blasphemy temp chains. I play HC.


sounds good. you should also consider to play with deidbellow instead of abyssus for HC
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Hotatica wrote:
Does this build still legit on the latest build version?


this build is always up to date
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Never mind, found the answer.
Last edited by Duckling on Nov 28, 2018, 9:15:42 AM
just returning after a lengthy time away and my old face breaker build appears to have been made obsolete. reading through your guide and will give the warchief route a try

my question is regarding not messing up my almost max legacy facebreaker, 997% damage. I know to not use a divine orb on it as that will reset the damage to the new range.

are there any other traps out there that could mess up my facebreaker. example, can I use the divine font on it in the labyrinth? I see that your gear shows a divine enhancement but want to be absolutely sure that doesn't reset my facebreaker to the new damage range. I wouldn't think it would but not worth the risk, so I skipped the enhancement on my first trip through

many thanks and loving the guide,

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