Heterosexual pride day?
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While there is some discrimination going towards heterosexuality on an individual level, as well as on a small group mentality level, asking for a heterosexuality pride day shows a misunderstanding of why gay pride day exists. It currently exists as a way to show that they overcame the adversity on a governmental level that was affecting them due to an uncontrollable part of who they are. Heterosexuals have never encountered that diversity, so they literally can't celebrate the overcoming of said diversity. You should be proud of who you are, you should be proud of your heritage. A parade to show that you're proud is not equivalent to Gay pride parades. The name belies the reason
There is some very real discrimination against whites happening in the educational sphere right now, though it's not on a governmental level. That, however, is for a different thread. Not my real account anymore, use it for forums while I work
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" I'm not sure how to properly convey what we have all been trying to explain to you for 8 pages, but here's still my attempt: Gay Pride is something that LGBT currently need. It shows everyone (whether LGBT or not) that there's nothing wrong with being LGBT, which is far from being an evidence for everyone. It's a way to protect themselves, from discrimination. When people call for a Heterosexual Pride Day, they are asking for the heterosexual equivalent to Gay Pride, which is to say, a way to show everyone that there's nothing wrong with being heterosexual. But everyone already knows that, it goes without saying. Or it could be considered as a way to try to protect heterosexual people. But from what? Discrimination? Of course not, and this is why people are being to upset about it: it is most likely to be an attempt to protect heterosexuals from... LGBT-ism. Now don't get me wrong, some people may be sincerely thinking about equality when suggesting an equivalent to Gay Pride for heterosexuals, and they simply don't fully understand the implications of the events, but such suggestions are more often dictated by bigotry. Also, there may be some people actually discriminating against heterosexuality, but that's a minority within a minority, as opposed to a minority/majority within a majority. Basically, sincere people are getting the flak because "Heterosexual/Straight Pride" is usually a way of expressing bigotry. Now, I think it would be much better if the accusations of discrimination against heterosexuals stopped, as they only polarize the discussion against you (it makes you look like either a troll or a bigot). People are only trying to explain you that the suggestion isn't as innocent as it may appear at first sight. In fact, Gay Pride doesn't stop at LGBT, it celebrates any kind of sexuality, even heterosexuality, so its opposite would either be an Asexual Pride day (as opposed to the full spectrum of sexualities Gay Pride celebrates) or a Sexuality Pride day (celebrates mainly heterosexuality, but LGBT is welcome too, as opposed to celebrating mainly LGBT, with heterosexuality welcome too, in Gay Prides). |
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Man you quoted me "stuff" you guys have been insulting me for 8 pages, and never took the time to understood the reasons why I would make such a thread. You come here with insults, and you dare talking about biggotry. Just saying, everything that I've wanted to prove has been proved in that thread.
And I can tell you more, I've lost every bit of respect I had for the LGBT movement seeing how you guys react. I'm just saying don't try to get accepted in society by using so much hatred and discrimination around you, it will never works. Next time something horrible will happen to the LGBT community, I will remain silent, I will no longer take my time to voice my opinion loudly to defend your community. You've lost a supporter by being something you like to call other all around, that's the only thing you will earn with insults. And since you didn't understood why I've made this thread initially ( because I've clearly mentionned in one comment that I don't want or need a hetero pride parade ) I hope at least you understant the lesson I'm trying to teach you with this very comment. Last edited by diablofdb#3816 on Jun 30, 2016, 9:58:21 PM
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Go home, you're drunk.
You won't get no glory on that side of the hole.
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" Then you had none to begin with. None. You've proven nothing at all. Listen very carefully, analyze these words. Sit down, grab a bite to eat, digest your sammich. Go for a walk, then read the following phrase over and over until you understand what it means: This is not That.
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I understand exactly why you made this thread... absolutely no one has missed your point. The profundity of the point you're trying to get across is entirely in your head.
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" Are we from LGBT movement? Nope, I just don't agree with you. If disagreeing with you is discrimination, I discriminate all the time. I would declare everyday as Heterosexual pride day. We display our Heterosexual affection as we want to, when we want to. I don't care about your political agenda. |
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A few pages more, everyone is still ignoring a basic premise: as far as a group of people want to make a parade, remain peaceful and aren't doing or advocating anything illegal, they are - and should be - free to do so. Hell, there are Ku Klux Klan gatherings in the US. No one is exactly overjoyed about it but they are allowed to happen as long as no one openly breaks the law.
Now, what would a theoretical hetero pride parade consist of? If I heard about it, I would assume it's a gathering of some kind of assorted nutjobs. But I might be wrong, and even if I'm not, they have the right to do it. And all the explanations how there is no such thing as reverse discrimination, how 'really, really (repeat x9) stupid' it is and these people couldn't possibly have problems just swayed my opinion a little in diablofdb's favour. When I read the thread title, I snorted and was prepared to see all kinds of silliness... what I wasn't ready for was seeing it from the people arguing against it. As much as I would probably dislike the participants in such a parade, I dislike even more them being told they can't do it. You have to be realistic about these things. Logen Ninefingers Last edited by Bars#2689 on Jul 1, 2016, 1:55:19 AM
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Bars, we aren't trying to say that there isn't any anti-heterosexual discrimination.
Nor are we advocating that such a parade should be forbidden. But we should be allowed to call out the actual reasons behind a gathering, and get offended if we believe those reasons to be unethical. And to do so without being accused of reverse-discrimination. |
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The KKK might have the right to arrange whatever they want as long as no laws are being broken. And anybody else have the right to protest against what they represent under the same conditions.
You want freedom of expression, but when that is used to protest against what is percieved as a bad idea you proclaim foul!. Tell me, is it really discriminatory against whites to object to state sanctioned KKK events? (To clarify, I'm only using KKK as an exaggerated example here to emphasize a point, in regards to the people who support Straight Pride I think it's plausible that a significant portion of them are unfortunately naive about it, but otherwise well-intentioned.) You won't get no glory on that side of the hole.
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