Guys, you have got to deal with reddit
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Your best option is to just not post there. I had used that site since it was first created; finally, a year ago, I deleted my account due to people there negatively impacting my mood.
To me the problem seems like a combination of platform, userbase, and how the sub-reddit is moderated. People do not use downvotes when something does not contribute or is negatively impacting the community (the intended use): they use it to downvote unpopular opinions or facts. If something has already been downvoted, people are more inclined to follow the mob mentality by continuing to downvote, no matter how correct or relevant the comment is. Similarly, people will upvote some completely unsubstantiated economical conspiracy thread there each league with no concern for facts. This all leads to people who put a lot of effort into creating content or articulating their opinions/ideas becoming bitter when they see their posts buried for no legitimate reason, even while low-effort junk is still upvoted and made visible. The userbase is... well, it's a gaming sub-reddit. The extremely vocal commenters tend to be pretty terrible to interact with as usual. I don't think this is something specific to Reddit; those who enjoying a game are busy playing the game rather than commenting about it constantly. And those who are more mature tend to not have hours per day to post online. Enforcing rules can ensure that these loud, toxic voices don't drown out everything. And setting proper expectations/standards for the community, and everyone adhering to them, means new individuals that stick around will be more pleasant (whether to fit in or because the undesirables are kicked out). Sadly, the sub-reddit moderation feels very hands-off in terms of this. Thus, the toxic individuals can be as overbearing as they want, and everyone else gets the perception that this is how they can or should be acting there as well. | |
" Don't you find it kind of ironic that this thread embodies that attitude completely? smh |
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"Same thing is happening here, hints why most people dont even bother with either. Im getting to that point, it doesnt affect my mood however, its just that point where its a waste of time to even bother with it. It was nice reading logical, well thought out feedback, nice seeing people actually be able to handle criticism and acknowledge when they were wrong in the past when the forums were filled with intellectuals fully willing to provide math, mechanics, etc to argue their points. Forums were not like they were a few years back. Now the forums are filled with one paragraph shit post complaints, complaining about trivial things all the time and people being stubborn and completely unwilling to learn and improve upon themselves and acknowledge that their build/gear might be bad and that they are wrong. Best thing to do at this point is ignore both the official forums and the reddit and just play the game and talk with friends. Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in!
Labyrinth salt farm miner. "But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years. |
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" Freedom fighter, or member of the Other Bully Brigade, who bullies the Bully Brigade? :D We all spread some toxicity from time to time. Point is knowing when it happens, and how to lesser the amount of it. :v Being a bully to a bully, is still being a bully. Feeling rightful about doing wrong is worst of it all. :V And sadly, Reddit is full of it. I remember the ty for scam <3 thingy - people were feeling so rightful to drop all kind of nastiest shit on Zeno. And while Zeno can really be annoying, dropping shit about his personal life, wife, kids and whatnot is simply wrong. And Reddit moderation was ok with that. Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. Last edited by Perq#4049 on Jun 17, 2016, 2:44:23 AM
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" I suppose you'd have gone far in medieval times. Unless it was you who someone decided weighed the same as a duck, your approach might not do so good for you, then. Anyway, reddit really is a terrible medium for the community. Perfect example between leaving this thread last night and this morning. Someone answers a question about volatile, but not only is their explanation wrong, it doesn't even make sense. A more accurate explanation is posted, wait a few hours, the accurate post is downvoted and hidden, the incorrect post is upvoted quite high. Reddit can assure people that black is white and blue is no colour at all if enough initial people decide so first. Who then spread misinformation and hide accurate information, the truth. More people see only the inaccurate information which then becomes fact. All the while the truth is sat there, buried, forgotten. Nice medium. Casually casual. Last edited by TheAnuhart#4741 on Jun 17, 2016, 2:51:52 AM
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" Fuck, I'm so glad I only played a few months of Rift when it came out and quickly jumped ship. @Tinfoil: you're one of the more, ahem, difficult to read and interact with posters here - and I'm putting it mildly. Don't know where you're getting the self-righteousness from but I think it's unfounded. About reddit: what's the big surprise there? People are quite dumb on average and when gathered in larger crowds the pack mentality settles in and they become even dumber, impossible as it may seem. Everyone is talking about democracy but they are forgetting this idea came from a society where around 10% of the population had the right to vote and everyone had to speak their mind and defend it personally in public. And everyone knew everyone else. You have to be realistic about these things. Logen Ninefingers Last edited by Bars#2689 on Jun 17, 2016, 3:22:51 AM
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Actually we tend to get smarter and be more useful in groups - the danger of the group is perceived anonymity.
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" Let me paraphrase: mob mentality. Perhaps a group could be a good thing, a mob certainly isn't. The ancient instincts of pack animals kick in from our lower brains and it goes downhill from there. You have to be realistic about these things. Logen Ninefingers Last edited by Bars#2689 on Jun 17, 2016, 3:44:46 AM
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Bleh anthropology. I prefer psychological explanations. They're much more...testable.
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" FWIW - I prefer the official PoE forum by a large margin. That said, there are some very good threads and some great info on the PoE subreddit. I don't care for the upvoting/downvoting system, but the system doesn't mean the people or the posts they make are bad. Yeah, some good stuff gets buried. Whenever I do look there, I always open it up so I can all the posts in the thread. Given any set of fixed rules, there will be people abusing those rules or trying to twist them for their own purposes. Considering that GGG wants to have the game reach as wide an audience as possible (hence it being free to play)- it makes sense for them to participate in more than one forum. Not everything in life is going to be the way we want it to be. That doesn't mean that thing is bad, or that we can't enjoy some aspect of it. Take a moment to appreciate people's differences, and you just mind find more common ground. Piety's story http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2081910 Last edited by DalaiLama#6738 on Jun 17, 2016, 7:03:22 AM
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