You're nerfing shit within mid league.

I miss the days when Acrobatics did not have such heavy drawbacks or Ondar's Guile being around. While it would had been obvious for evasion max block melee builds, at least melee had something going for them. On the other hand, the best defense is never making contact with the enemies, but you can make contact with the enemies via other options.









Spoiler
Ondar's Guile > Arrow Dancing, both in name and mechanically.
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Ceryneian wrote:

Max block life BofR builds were "extremely powerful"? Yeah that is ancient warfare that is laughable by these days levels, Those days of bofR you were running around with 4.5k life trying to hit a measly 40k dps?

Those builds are all fossils now homie.

They could get close to immortal, so yeah, pretty much very powerful.
Meta has changed a lot obviously, but the item that allowed that much of a high block like this was BoR.
Now there are other balances issues on other builds, and the power creep buffed much more some others, no doubt.

Maybe the main problem would be that BoR would not really fit into the recent fast-clear meta also. But max block with vengeance can still be very powerful, no doubt.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Jun 11, 2016, 4:13:42 AM
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I_NO wrote:
Melee will become powerful in 2019 dun worry.


Aye
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Chris wrote:
Discharge was made consistent with other large AoE skills. Perhaps it does too much damage, but at least its behaviour is correct now. The problem with Discharge is CoC, which is receiving some love in 2.4.0 <3
source

So Chris made the effort to stress that CoC would be getting looked at for 2.4.0 but stopped there didn't acknowledge any other (melee) concerns given the context.
Does this mean that improvements to melee won't be in 2.4.0?
It certainly implies that it's more important for people to know that CoC is "receiving some love" than for long standing and deep rooted issues for melee being made a priority.
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You can play any build you want, as long as it's the current meta.
Last edited by Ashen_Shugar_IV#4253 on Jun 11, 2016, 4:45:14 AM
ggg nerf policy always was bad

its killing builds and items, overnerf.... zzzZZ

players leave game cuz of this
Last edited by maxlmantis#0604 on Jun 11, 2016, 4:51:37 AM
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I_NO wrote:
And buffing the shit that's already good like I'm so fucking confused right now it's unreal, you basically made a skill viable then decided to you know kick it in the no no zone and buff something that's actually really really really good.

Whos your balence team? You best explain yourselves because these really don't make sense and I'm annoyed because you DO NOT NERF mid between leagues you know how people get when you do that lol



This is happening since closed beta , are you new or something ?
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JohnNamikaze wrote:
I miss the days when Acrobatics did not have such heavy drawbacks or Ondar's Guile being around. While it would had been obvious for evasion max block melee builds, at least melee had something going for them. On the other hand, the best defense is never making contact with the enemies, but you can make contact with the enemies via other options.









Spoiler
Ondar's Guile > Arrow Dancing, both in name and mechanically.
It was broken back then though.

Max Block > Acro > Ondars with dodge and evasion = Invincible

It got nerfed rightfully soo but evasion is in a pretty bad state especially with the new physical spells being added to monster abilities.

Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in!

Labyrinth salt farm miner.

"But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years.
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:
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JohnNamikaze wrote:
I miss the days when Acrobatics did not have such heavy drawbacks or Ondar's Guile being around. While it would had been obvious for evasion max block melee builds, at least melee had something going for them. On the other hand, the best defense is never making contact with the enemies, but you can make contact with the enemies via other options.









Spoiler
Ondar's Guile > Arrow Dancing, both in name and mechanically.
It was broken back then though.

Max Block > Acro > Ondars with dodge and evasion = Invincible

It got nerfed rightfully soo but evasion is in a pretty bad state especially with the new physical spells being added to monster abilities.



The thing is they should have put a penalty on max block instead of all block. Exspecially Dualwielding feels very punishing as an acrobatics char. For me you are kinda supposed to get some block with dualwield but with Acrobatics you lose a lot of it. On the other hand they are buffing dodge over and over and over.

Basic Dodge is 40%, 6% from Ascent from Flesh, 10% from Hyrri's, 16% from Darkray, 6% from two swords, 6% with Quartz Infusion, 10% from Hinekoras Sight, 2% from the Jewel. Also Spelldamage can reach a similar high level, exspecially if you add Flasks to the mix. So they kinda turn dodge into an issue again, even without block.

Technically I think you could even get 100% chance to dodge for a short time.
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tryhardgg wrote:
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I_NO wrote:
And buffing the shit that's already good like I'm so fucking confused right now it's unreal, you basically made a skill viable then decided to you know kick it in the no no zone and buff something that's actually really really really good.

Whos your balence team? You best explain yourselves because these really don't make sense and I'm annoyed because you DO NOT NERF mid between leagues you know how people get when you do that lol



This is happening since closed beta , are you new or something ?


Clearly you are. It's rare for them nerf stuff in the middle of a league in terms of skills for good reasons.
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