[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

Hi Kelvynn! I would ask you a question, dunno if you can answer though :D
Im playing on HC and have a small problem. It is my first time then im playing PoE and im not so rich as experienced players, so i could not buy anything what i want from poetrade. So there is a problem - i cant find any solutions for buying Black Sun helmet and still be with decent amount of resists (for ele weakness especially), so i decided to try something else, buy ~300-400ES & 40++ Int rare helmet instead of respecing 4-5 items from my gear (cause also i want +1 curse from the ring and i will fall out of resist cap because of that).
If you still reading this - my question(:D):
In all your videos i didnt saw any dmg on you which you could not outleach, and seems like you can die only to oneshot/mistake, so, how much dps on iceshtorm tooltip do you need to outleech any dmg you taken ? I have around 4++ k right now without buffs and with only fire golem. Im able to run almost any maps (i did 15% ele reflect twice, it was hard on concentration, but i was ok) T8 and below, didnt tryed T9+, but sometimes im scared on some bosses cause i see their dmg is more higher than my lifeleach (obviously cause i have not enough dps on icestorm right now).
Also maybe you have some ideas about my situation? like some cheap variants for dps/diffence.. Im playing PoE since start of this league, so i dont know many things and items =)
nvm;
Last edited by RX07#4752 on Sep 20, 2016, 9:47:56 AM
Has anyone considered going occultist for this? You won't be able to deal with reflects, and will need to have slightly more resists on gear (since you get 12% on Ele tree), but you get a lot more ES and a third curse for free, which means you can drop Doedre's for a better ring. No extra fire pen could hurt though, I suppose.
Last edited by Rivx#4632 on Sep 20, 2016, 9:29:04 AM
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Rivx wrote:
Has anyone considered going occultist for this? You won't be able to deal with reflects, and will need to have slightly more resists on gear (since you get 12% on Ele tree), but you get a lot more ES and a third curse for free, which means you can drop Doedre's for a better ring.


All that extra DPS youd be losing is key to your survival with the leech. Dont feel itd be worth it.
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Rivx wrote:
Has anyone considered going occultist for this? You won't be able to deal with reflects, and will need to have slightly more resists on gear (since you get 12% on Ele tree), but you get a lot more ES and a third curse for free, which means you can drop Doedre's for a better ring. No extra fire pen could hurt though, I suppose.


look up demigodking on youtube. in prophecy he did a cold pen ci whispering ice occultist. really solid build. thats probably what you'd wanna look at
How much cost this build?
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ikorsa wrote:
Hi Kelvynn! I would ask you a question, dunno if you can answer though :D
Im playing on HC and have a small problem. It is my first time then im playing PoE and im not so rich as experienced players, so i could not buy anything what i want from poetrade. So there is a problem - i cant find any solutions for buying Black Sun helmet and still be with decent amount of resists (for ele weakness especially), so i decided to try something else, buy ~300-400ES & 40++ Int rare helmet instead of respecing 4-5 items from my gear (cause also i want +1 curse from the ring and i will fall out of resist cap because of that).
If you still reading this - my question(:D):
In all your videos i didnt saw any dmg on you which you could not outleach, and seems like you can die only to oneshot/mistake, so, how much dps on iceshtorm tooltip do you need to outleech any dmg you taken ? I have around 4++ k right now without buffs and with only fire golem. Im able to run almost any maps (i did 15% ele reflect twice, it was hard on concentration, but i was ok) T8 and below, didnt tryed T9+, but sometimes im scared on some bosses cause i see their dmg is more higher than my lifeleach (obviously cause i have not enough dps on icestorm right now).
Also maybe you have some ideas about my situation? like some cheap variants for dps/diffence.. Im playing PoE since start of this league, so i dont know many things and items =)

I'm not qualified to give detailed advice on HC since I don't play in HC. However, I've done many high tier maps with Enfeeble and MF gems sitting at 3k Icestorm tooltip - it's enough to facetank all trash and most bosses. The tooltip shows only a part of our DPS. Things like fire penetration and EO (don't neglect Orb of Storms!) increase the actual DPS significantly. A rare helmet gives you more ES and resists at the price of losing some DPS. For HC that may be a good deal, I can't say for sure. But for mid-tier maps you are most definitely fine with 4k Icestorm.



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TheJusticeBrings wrote:
How much cost this build?

The budget is scalable. There is no fixed cost. You can start with cheap items and be fine in yellow maps. Or you can buy more expensive stuff and be fine in red maps. Or even more expensive stuff and kill the Shaper.

For a starter edition, the most expensive item is Astramentis (50c - 1ex currently).
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Sep 20, 2016, 12:07:28 PM
I finally got a decent armour.


Do you think i have the prerequisite to try The Shaper with 8628 ES / 1514 int ? (my profile is public)
Last edited by RoCKeTs#2072 on Sep 20, 2016, 12:33:43 PM
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RoCKeTs wrote:
I finally got a decent armour.


Do you think i have the prerequisite to try The Shaper with 8628 ES / 1514 int ? (my profile is public)

Yes. Your gear is very good. Grats on the chest, it's amazing. Check if you are over the cap on resists and still have Kraityn. There is a skill point for you there if you no longer need his resists.

Notes:

1. If you swap the two curse effect nodes for the useless one near Whispers of Doom, the saved skill point will allow you to swap the jewel near Scion for the one near GR. I use that curse node as a temporary swap several times at the high levels to grab jewels faster. Or just level to 92, that's not exactly hard with the current availability of T15 maps (you shaped Quay, I hope?)

2. What's with the gems in your staff? Faster Casting and AoE? Is that for trash clearing? But Spell Echo is always better. If you want to clear easy trash faster, use FC instead of CD, not instead of SE. And I don't see CE anywhere. You will need it for the serious bosses.

I don't know if trying the Shaper with lv 19 gems is a great idea. If getting the sets for him is not hard for you then obtaining 20/20 gems shouldn't be hard either, no?

And when you try the Shaper, remember the special setup with PoI and Orb+curses. Get a second helmet with BBGG just for the Shaper, he's worth it.
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Sep 20, 2016, 3:59:26 PM
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TheJusticeBrings wrote:
How much cost this build?


I'd say no more than 1.5 ex, only due the astramentis being 1ex

I've probably spent about 10-15c but I'm using a found amulet with double str since im too poor for astramentis

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