[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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Black_Gun wrote:


1.) int is the mainstat of this build. it provides skill base damage, damage scaling, skill duration, energy shield, max mana and mana regen. 20 int is not a waste. yes, one can take foresight, but its usually not a good idea once the build is completed/comes together around level 92. if you are starting out and have bad gear, foresight might help, but I would consider it a temporary fix, not a final solution.


Well, I use 2 +10 int nodes to get Foresight. Considering that is 2% spell dmg and 4% increased ES(screw the mana, we have enough to get by anyway), isnt it better to get 20% increased ES which is quite a considerable boost for the same? Also, how does int and skill duration relate?
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atarekaze wrote:
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Black_Gun wrote:


1.) int is the mainstat of this build. it provides skill base damage, damage scaling, skill duration, energy shield, max mana and mana regen. 20 int is not a waste. yes, one can take foresight, but its usually not a good idea once the build is completed/comes together around level 92. if you are starting out and have bad gear, foresight might help, but I would consider it a temporary fix, not a final solution.


Well, I use 2 +10 int nodes to get Foresight. Considering that is 2% spell dmg and 4% increased ES(screw the mana, we have enough to get by anyway), isnt it better to get 20% increased ES which is quite a considerable boost for the same? Also, how does int and skill duration relate?

icestorm gains 0.15s base duration for every 100 int. with 1.5k int, thats 2.25s additional base duration. which is then multiplicatively scaled by the nodes in the potency of will cluster.
Ok, I got to lv 92 and did the Shaper some more. It feels a lot more comfortable now.

New video: Uber Izaro, Uber Atziri, The Shaper in 2.6

I haven't felt any difference between 2.5 and 2.6 until reaching the Shaper. Perhaps Uber Atziri was dying a little slower than before, but it didn't matter. T16 bosses went even easier than before, thanks to this new awesome flask (20% fire pen!):

Because PoI is used for the Shaper, I bring a Ruby flask and pop it together with the Wise Oak to get fire res on top.

However, the Shaper fight is where the nerf to CE becomes noticeable. Each phase takes a little longer, and it's a little harder to outleech his damage plus the vortexes plus the clone in the final part. At lv 89 the char felt too weak. At lv 92 it felt like lv 89 before the nerf. Basically, this nerf equals 1 jewel. So at lv 95 (the next jewel) it should be pretty easy again.

Physical mitigation flasks take care of the Slam two times per phase, and before 2.6 it very rarely took more than 2 Slams per phase. But now a 3rd Slam is not so rare anymore, and that one you have to dodge. It's not a huge deal in the 1st or 2nd part (and in the video I actually messed up my flasks in the 2nd part and had to dodge it), but if you get 3 Slams in the final part - that's trouble, because while you dodge it the Clone will show up and you'll need to dodge him too, and it gets complicated.

I'm considering using 2 Granites without Basalt, it may be enough with 8k+ ES (with both flasks active you get hit for only 5.5k). If that works, it will be enough for 4 Slams, and the problem is solved.
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Mar 17, 2017, 6:14:42 AM
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atarekaze wrote:
Just another quick question, what is the recommended ES before fighting Dominus and Malachai in cruel and merciless(a kind of gear check before fighting to ensure no One Shot deaths take place)?

You are not supposed to eat Dominus' and Malachai's 1-shot Slam attacks. Ever. Dominus you might survive, depending on your Lightning resist. Malachai will 1-shot you with any gear you can possibly have at those levels.

Without eating their 1-shots, something like 2k ES for Cruel A4 is fine, as well as Merc Dominus. I haven't done Merc Malachai with this build before upgrading to the endgame gear. There is no reason to do anything in Act 4 after freeing Deshret before you level to 70 and wear the good stuff. But 3-4k ES should be fine, I think.
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Mar 17, 2017, 5:51:56 AM
Im starting this build, like what class Is actually the best to run with witch, scion, templar or maruader?
Heya, is it normal to have 5600 avg. damage with Pendulum and Sulphur flask up at lvl 87? I'm quite certain there must be something wrong with my gear, your tooltip is much higher.

The only thing I'm lacking is a Jewel I got for resists.
Am i blind / missing something or do you not over cap res for ele weakness maps?

All those unique make it hard to get enough resist.
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Biowned wrote:
Heya, is it normal to have 5600 avg. damage with Pendulum and Sulphur flask up at lvl 87? I'm quite certain there must be something wrong with my gear, your tooltip is much higher.

The only thing I'm lacking is a Jewel I got for resists.



How much int do you have? The 5600 avg dmg is it with golems + pendulum and sulphur flask?

My avg dmg with all that is 7300
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LastxResort wrote:
Am i blind / missing something or do you not over cap res for ele weakness maps?

All those unique make it hard to get enough resist.


Without Pyre yeah, you will need 60 more resist on your gear now. With Pyre I overcapped fire and cold for ele weakness, only lightning dropped. No problem anyway at around T10. Not sure if there's a problem with that at higher tier either.
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Pjey wrote:
Im starting this build, like what class Is actually the best to run with witch, scion, templar or maruader?

If you have never played WI before, start with the Witch.


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Biowned wrote:
Heya, is it normal to have 5600 avg. damage with Pendulum and Sulphur flask up at lvl 87? I'm quite certain there must be something wrong with my gear, your tooltip is much higher.

The only thing I'm lacking is a Jewel I got for resists.

5600 avg tooltip is a little lower than I had at lv 87 (you can see at the start of the video, my avg was about 6100 with the golems). But it's fine.

ETA: Looked at your items. Your chest armor has 20 Int! That's terrible for this build. Don't go for raw ES without Int. And you are using one of the jewel sockets just for resists, so you basically have 1 less jewel.
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Mar 17, 2017, 12:13:45 PM

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