[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything
" dont think so. but for the reasons given above, I believe that WI is the overall stronger build anyway. wither cwc chaos firestorm only really shines in high topend bossfights like uber, guardians or shaper. |
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" I've compared the 2 builds a bit now on path of building. WI has better up front damage but quickly falls behind after 2-3 seconds due to wither stacking and poison. The poison damage is something ridiculous like 2x the damage of the initial impact per second for 7 seconds on non-bosses with 5 wither stacks. You'd be able to kill any packs just from the poison applied through 1 cast for firestorm. Whether or not that's correct, I'm gonna test on standard once breach ends but maybe that's just the OPness of double dipping. In terms of ES, they actually end up similar if WI is running all rares. If WI runs black sun crest, pyre, doedre's damning like the OP, the ES is considerably lower (8k vs 10k usually). Last edited by Astrohawke#1298 on Feb 23, 2017, 8:05:05 PM
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" As a non-witherer, I'm at 8750 ES buffed with mediocre gear. You can go over 10k easily by using a rare helm instead of the black sun, at the cost of some DPS. The big disadvantage of Wither CWC to me is the need for a 6L chest. I generally have never been able to afford a 6L chest in any of the leagues I've played so far (the last 2.3, roughly.) |
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" even if both builds are able to kill a pack in one cast during ordinary mapping, WI still has stun immunity, tricurse and at least one additional aura over wither firestorm builds. my WI builds easily reach over 10k ES btw... my bsc WI char is currently at 11666 ES. (with black sun and two unique rings!) Last edited by Black_Gun#7476 on Feb 23, 2017, 8:33:36 PM
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" 6L just gives an extra more modifier gem. You lose damage not having it but I wouldn't say it's absolutely needed. Poison damage already scales super high. I've also weighed the pros and cons of gearing at the start of a new league. Both can level fine as scorching ray cwc firestorm with no gear up to merc dried lake. It's cheaper to transition into whispering ice than it is to get consuming darks for firestorm. But to gear up beyond that, WI becomes way more expensive because you're potentially competing for HoWa gear (fertile minds, brute force solution, astramentis and +int ES gear). |
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" firestorm is also stun immune and tri curse. You don't really need more auras. If you're putting all your curses on cwdt, the only aura you need to run is discipline. You BSC character has 2k int and insane gear. Doesn't really compare to the average geared 1.5k int characters I'm comparing. Just to be clear, the firestorm character is an occultist. EDIT: Putting up 2 codes for path of building characters with the basics for each build so you can look at what I'm comparing. They're not complete but they have what's needed to compare overall damage and ES. Feel free to modify. Firestorm: http://pastebin.com/Cbdgmzzx WI: http://pastebin.com/fT1R0L0j Last edited by Astrohawke#1298 on Feb 23, 2017, 8:58:54 PM
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" TIL I have a legacy perandus! |
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Is there a strategy on how to deal with Vaal Temple boss?
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"Same as uber atziri' trio. 1. Kill ranged boss (avoid standing in rain) 2. Then kill dual-striker boss (probably wait until his Fire thorns turns off) 3. Then facetank cycloner boss outside of black pools "I've been playing around this tree and setup for a few hours, and looking for other versions of Poison firestorm builds as well. Found this one with this tree By the numbers his poison damage is over 2 times higher (with same gear and links, just without enfeeble and using different tree). Differences: 24% es lower, no Wicked Ward, have to use +1 curse ring, losing enfeeble (or spend 4 pts on curse cluster) Not saying it's superior option, but interested in your opinion. Last edited by ekunholy#6839 on Feb 24, 2017, 8:56:35 AM
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Very detailed guide Kelvynn, I will be building this as my initial character in Legacy League!
:) Last edited by Ab0veBey0nd#4442 on Feb 24, 2017, 9:35:26 AM
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