[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

Noob question here, I've read the guide but can't seem to find how the three curses (Warlord's Mark (via Blasphemy), Temporal Chain, and Enfeeble (both via CoH)) all be active at the enemy at the same time with only Doedre's damning to add an additional curse (total limit of 2). I must be missing something. Please enlighten me. Thanks.

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haxers wrote:

Noob question here, I've read the guide but can't seem to find how the three curses (Warlord's Mark (via Blasphemy), Temporal Chain, and Enfeeble (both via CoH)) all be active at the enemy at the same time with only Doedre's damning to add an additional curse (total limit of 2). I must be missing something. Please enlighten me. Thanks.

you need the extra curse from the passive tree too

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y562565 wrote:

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haxers wrote:

Noob question here, I've read the guide but can't seem to find how the three curses (Warlord's Mark (via Blasphemy), Temporal Chain, and Enfeeble (both via CoH)) all be active at the enemy at the same time with only Doedre's damning to add an additional curse (total limit of 2). I must be missing something. Please enlighten me. Thanks.

you need the extra curse from the passive tree too

Tyvm. Much appreciated.

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Levirael wrote:

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Cornelius968 wrote:

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Levirael wrote:

I'll go with Ice Golem anyways, more damage is better I think.

But coloring "blue" gloves or boots in RRRG... It's pain, about 1000Chr, depends on Vorici Chromatic Calculator :(

I posted the answer before, make your helmet 1B (blasphemy) 2G (ice golem and arctic armour) 1R (warlord's mark), and use Vorici 3R on your gloves (or boots) so you have an extra socket.

why on earth should we use a blasphemy-warlords setup when the mana costs are covered by the mana regen on a sr-cwc build? use cwdt lvl 1 - warlords mark lvl 5 instead.

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Black_Gun wrote:

why on earth should we use a blasphemy-warlords setup when the mana costs are covered by the mana regen on a sr-cwc build? use cwdt lvl 1 - warlords mark lvl 5 instead.

Because warlord's mark leeches life? And because you will never need the extra mana? I only have like 80 mana and I can cast all my spells with no problem.

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Levirael wrote:

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Black_Gun wrote:

why on earth should we use a blasphemy-warlords setup when the mana costs are covered by the mana regen on a sr-cwc build? use cwdt lvl 1 - warlords mark lvl 5 instead.

Because warlord's mark leeches life? And because you will never need the extra mana? I only have like 80 mana and I can cast all my spells with no problem.

yeah, thats why I said: if we dont need to have warlords mark up permanently to cover the mana cost, why would we reserve 35% mana to aurafy it via blasphemy? using warmark in a cwdt setup means that it is up as soon as we take damage anyway. this way, we can use another aura, for example purity of elements, and we dont need to have those sockets in the helm. BBG-X is enough for the black sun with such a setup: discipline, purity of elements, arctic armour plus x. makes coloring the helm much more easy and tremendously helps with resists. for practically zero loss compared to the old "blasphemy - warlords mark & selfcast" setup.

I have 47 unreserved mana, i need the leech.

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Levirael wrote:

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Delphicc wrote:

Noob here, in the CWC SR version of this build. Do u still take mastermind of discord? When im clearing i dont rlly use orb of storms and i dont use lightningwarp. Should i opt into Shaper of desolation or is it meh?. I could remove Pyre from my rings for mastermind or is Pyre a MUST ? Im unsure atm... thanks in advance for the reply!

Pyre is completely necessary, else you basically cripple the build. Your chest should have the curse on hit with a lightning spell, and you should use orb of storms.

you could theoretically grab avatar of fire and swap a support gem for cold to fire. it will cut your dps a bit but open up a ring slot.

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Black_Gun wrote:

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Levirael wrote:

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Black_Gun wrote:

why on earth should we use a blasphemy-warlords setup when the mana costs are covered by the mana regen on a sr-cwc build? use cwdt lvl 1 - warlords mark lvl 5 instead.

Because warlord's mark leeches life? And because you will never need the extra mana? I only have like 80 mana and I can cast all my spells with no problem.

yeah, thats why I said: if we dont need to have warlords mark up permanently to cover the mana cost, why would we reserve 35% mana to aurafy it via blasphemy? using warmark in a cwdt setup means that it is up as soon as we take damage anyway. this way, we can use another aura, for example purity of elements, and we dont need to have those sockets in the helm. BBG-X is enough for the black sun with such a setup: discipline, purity of elements, arctic armour plus x. makes coloring the helm much more easy and tremendously helps with resists. for practically zero loss compared to the old "blasphemy - warlords mark & selfcast" setup.

You would need a 6L for that, which isn't exactly cheap.

Edit: Unless you were to remove the leap slam combo, which I dont usually use.

So it would be something like:

Gloves: 3R 1B (CWDT, Immortal Call, Flame Golem, extra slot).
Boots: 2R 2B (CWDT, Warlord's mark, Curse on hit, orb of storms or ball lightning).
Chest: The setup this guides does, with 2 curses, curse on hit, CWDT, trigger spell and extra slot (discipline for me).
Helmet: Arctic armour, Ice golem, 2 extra slots.

So you would have 3 extra slots with this setup, at the cost of the leap slam combo (you could put discipline on your gloves, arctic armour on your chest, and the leap slam combo on your helmet if you want, and you will be left with an extra 1 slot to put anything you want).

Hi! I'm a new-ish player and I wish to try out this build. Is this still viable in BSC?

Secondly I see that Astramentis Onyx Amulet is in the mandatory uniques section. Is there any alternative to that amulet, since its kind of expensive right now.

Thanks for the guide this is probably one of the best written guides I have seen on this forum!