[2.3] CoC Cyclone Discharge Trickster! HC/Level 100 Viable!

Dont worry Grocery, just considerations. Well, back to your topic. :)

Don't know why there's so many shitposts in here. The build is allready proven to be one of the strongest builds this league - if not the strongest. OP is doing a great job helping out other people.

About the voidbringer fuss. I dont know what that guy has against them. They are not terrible. Saying so I'd say is pretty stupid. It's a great budget option. And what I like about them is that they are so cheap that you can vaal them. +1 level? Extra +max res is big. It's huge. You can also get other things like ele weakness on hit, or curses. ATM I have temp chains (my vaal luck isnt the best). They have decent ES too.

how good is this build on budget (5L voll and no voll's amulet)?

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Recovary wrote:

how good is this build on budget (5L voll and no voll's amulet)?

Perfectly fine. Just helped a guy out. He gave me 12 chaos. I bought him 2 new rings, a belt, an amulet, energy from within, and respecced his tree a bit. The gear cost 11 c, returned 1 back to him.

you just drop blade vortex from 5L and out it in a CWDT setup. Obv a 6L will help make it insane and is cheaper than Volls Devo.

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Grocery wrote:

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Recovary wrote:

how good is this build on budget (5L voll and no voll's amulet)?

Perfectly fine. Just helped a guy out. He gave me 12 chaos. I bought him 2 new rings, a belt, an amulet, energy from within, and respecced his tree a bit. The gear cost 11 c, returned 1 back to him.

you just drop blade vortex from 5L and out it in a CWDT setup. Obv a 6L will help make it insane and is cheaper than Volls Devo.

How about a 4link?? Will a 4link voll's work for ultra budget?

How much does a 5L volls cost on average in PHC? Is it better to just get a cheap volls and try to link it to 5L?

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Kuruptt wrote:

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Grocery wrote:

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Recovary wrote:

how good is this build on budget (5L voll and no voll's amulet)?

Perfectly fine. Just helped a guy out. He gave me 12 chaos. I bought him 2 new rings, a belt, an amulet, energy from within, and respecced his tree a bit. The gear cost 11 c, returned 1 back to him.

you just drop blade vortex from 5L and out it in a CWDT setup. Obv a 6L will help make it insane and is cheaper than Volls Devo.

How about a 4link?? Will a 4link voll's work for ultra budget?

How much does a 5L volls cost on average in PHC? Is it better to just get a cheap volls and try to link it to 5L?

You would have to take out life leech so I am not too sure. You would likely only use a 4L while doing it hybrid before you get the 5L that way potions can still come into play. It's so cheap nowadays tho that it should be doable to get a 5L.

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Grocery wrote:

You would have to take out life leech so I am not too sure. You would likely only use a 4L while doing it hybrid before you get the 5L that way potions can still come into play. It's so cheap nowadays tho that it should be doable to get a 5L.

Build can be done in 4l as Scion's AssZerker spec. You will need elreon's rings + several mana on hit jewels. There are also pepole, who use blasphemy + warlord's mark to substitute leech.

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NetBurst wrote:

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Grocery wrote:

You would have to take out life leech so I am not too sure. You would likely only use a 4L while doing it hybrid before you get the 5L that way potions can still come into play. It's so cheap nowadays tho that it should be doable to get a 5L.

Build can be done in 4l as Scion's AssZerker spec. You will need elreon's rings + several mana on hit jewels. There are also pepole, who use blasphemy + warlord's mark to substitute leech.

That's right. Blasphemy Warlords Mark is what we would need. Thanks for the reminder.

Going Scion would be a bit different though.

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Grocery wrote:

That's right. Blasphemy Warlords Mark is what we would need. Thanks for the reminder.

Going Scion would be a bit different though.

Yeah, AssZerker will make some things easier, but other things will become harder. Or more expensive, if you prefer it that way :). 2 good elreon's rings with at least -7 mana plus several good mana on hit jewels will cost a fortune now. It was a different story at start of the league although. Also, 3G3B Voll's will cost a lot. But with 5L Voll's I like Scion more. Mostly because I play without Voll's Devotion and in 4-man party. Because of this I'm not using Diamond flask, rather I sit at around 80% crit before pcharges and rely on surgeon's flasks for sustain throughout all boss fights. But with this approach I can carry 4man party on regular Atziri without any problems.

What I like about this expansion, is that old problems can be approached from a bunch of different vectors now. And that rocks :) . Especially if you know your way around tree, gear and enchants.

BTW, for CI its very good to have "65% chance to Avoid being Stunned if you've Killed Recently" on boots. This will increase mapping safety by VERY large margin. For bosses I like "Damage Penetrates 8% of Enemy Elemental Resistances if you haven't Killed Recently".

Any suggestions on leveling one?
Thanks!