Crafting Maps Is Really, Not Fun

If your build is good:

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chisel
alc
vaal
run

If your build is not as good:

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chisel
alc
chaos, chaos, chaos... (so you will not get rip mods)
run

If you use more currency to roll maps than you get form it you need to uprade your build ot be able to run harder maps.

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Why is there no system for generating random maps

using orbs on maps is generating random maps.

You do know that the flexibility of the skill and gear system practically screams at you to adjust your build for the different map mods?

Yes if you expect to run every map with the same setup your build choice is more limited, but that gets much bigger if you change things around depending on the mpas. E.g. reflect maps are trivial if you adjust your phys/ele mix and defensive auras appropriately.

Also, with all the build options don't you have different toons built to handle the different mods? As I roll maps I stick some of them on one side of the stash or the other if they are a gift to one toon and harder on another.

Map mods should be building diversity and flexibility in your mapping toons. If you are serious about running maps have a couple of good map runners that can actually run them without crying.

Of course you can build toons that will struggle and die. That is your choice not a deficiency in the map system.

Just build a toon with chaos damage to eat up all the leftovers.

If you don't have to spam chaos orbs that much usually you get more than you invest in your maps. I feel like it's way more annoying to sustain the pool than rolling them. And the new zana is helping a lot even in that regard.

Crafting maps is a chore?

In what universe?

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mynameisonlyforthegods wrote:

Crafting maps is a chore?

In what universe?

I don't know if "chore" is the right word choice here. Maybe saying "crafting maps can be tedious" would have been more correct.

If I just want to have fun, I might not log onto path to run high level maps because...drum roll...sometimes it isn't fun. I know that's shocking, but sometimes it just isn't fun to run 78 maps at 100+% and get no returns for them beyond the thrill of saying "Hah! I can do that!".

If you cant just alch and go.

then you should just try trans->aug->alt

until you get two ez mods then regal the last one.

Should save you alot of chaos and if you spend the chis you still get some quantity.

Still not as good as 4-6 mods you get by just alching but you will be safe and there is less of a currency sink.

I'm just going to point out that Torchlight 2's map system is about 500x as fun as PoE's... almost entirely because it's 500x less restrictive and chore-like.

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TheLastZica wrote:

I'm just going to point out that Torchlight 2's map system is about 500x as fun as PoE's... almost entirely because it's 500x less restrictive and chore-like.

The whole point of POEs end game is to grind currency to pay for maps to grind currency to play better maps.

So just spend 1ex and buy a nice map pack.

Trans-aug-alt-regal and go

Or

Alc-chaos-chaos-chaos-chaos-omg ele reflect and temp chains arrrggg-chaos-Wts T12 map for 6C

Roll a T10 alch and go :D

What other point is there once you have your gear and there is literally noting to do but grind currency to buy maps to grind currency to buy better maps...

Learned that mapping parties are the only way to go, if its a reflect map just let your buddies do all the work.

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Gauhron wrote:

Yes if you expect to run every map with the same setup your build choice is more limited, but that gets much bigger if you change things around depending on the mpas. E.g. reflect maps are trivial if you adjust your phys/ele mix and defensive auras appropriately.

If I get an ele reflect map I can just not run it - Avatar of Fire kind of makes it impossible. I could try totems, but they die too fast. I still vaal my maps - the ones that get ele reflect I have to sell or up-vendor.

The problem is not the map crafting (which is too expensive though for getting the interesting mods), but the scarcity of high-level maps.

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Char1983 wrote:

The problem is not the map crafting (which is too expensive though for getting the interesting mods), but the scarcity of high-level maps.

If top maps were common people would complain that they've completed all the content and that it's boring. With scarcity some content has more value.

That said in an ideal world content wouldn't be gated behind artifical scarcity. That said, I don't know what the solution should be for PoE.