SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Siochan wrote:

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Prebornfetus wrote:

Xstorma totally missed the joke.

Sure would be nice to know GGG plans for labyrinth. If they just came out and said look folks the lab is here to stay and will include ascendancy points then I could move on, give my stuff away, quit posting in these forums, and never look back. Just tell us already GGG. 190+ pages. Its time to communicate something....anything...no dont u reach for that reddit link....post here!!!!

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You start a post with this very topic then a few lab lovers QQ all over your post that you're spamming about lab when you're really just wanting to know if you should just close your account and leave (aka, not make another post ever again) for good. Then they say you shouldn't get an answer because you posted another lab thread which means you are still around posting about the shitty lab. Oh the idiocy, lol.

This has got to be the lowest point in the history of POE that we cant even get information on the plans for lab by a company priding itself on communication. They need to get a GGG roundtable and call the dev heads of state that be and hold a vote. Vote yay or nay for removing lab and if it nay the lab stays then vote yay or nay on removing ascendancy from it and then tell us the vote. Its time GGG. A post doesnt get to 190 pages by accident. Ppl care about this one either for or against lab. Give at least one side the power to completely leave the game. Settle this once and for all or this is never going to end.

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goetzjam wrote:

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Albinosaurus wrote:

I wonder how many people would quit if they were to come out and say that.

If they quit complaining it might be for the best to just do it anyway. Chances are most focus is on finishing the next expansion and league before it starts, pushing stuff like improving the lab or any other lab changes further and further back, if they even had those plans to begin with.

Yeah indeed, path of exile would be so much fun with only WK's and milkers lol. So that no one could have a chance to give you arguments on how bad you can think in this game.

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The game feels real dead to me right now because Lab is such an awful "feature.

Don't worry he's dying slowly.

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Until you hear otherwise I'd just assume they aren't going to make a change. Check back here in 3 weeks to a month when they announce the next expansion and league and see if it is among the list of changes

So what your are explaining to us is that path of exile is only living when GGG is trying to hype players with new leagues ? Like the last one who was a complete fail ? :D

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For them to "fix it" they would have to identify it is a true problem for the game to begin with

Yep it is easier to stay in denial, and ignore the problems by saying they don't exist i agree. But that won't solve them you know ?

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with the caveat that any low effort or offtopic post will be removed or the thread locked if people aren't willing to stay on topic.

Agree with you = Stay on topic.
Disagrees = Trolls/offtopic.

Ridiculous.

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Again I tried to push this thread and others into what would more then likely be the overall best thing to do

"the best thing to do" = "What i like the most" Very objective lol.

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but people didn't want to discuss it they rather repeat the same stuff over and over again

People disagrees with me = People doesn't want to discuss.
Sad shortcuts for a sad stubborn WK, very sad.

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Regulator wrote:

So what im suggesting here is for GGG to consider at some point to remove the ascendancy points from labyrinth. Not make them completely free, but remove that tedious, frustrating and unfun playstyle as a requirement to acquire them. .

I could not agree more. Especially Uber Points....

If they came out and said, "Hey, Lab is here to stay, and Ascendancy is staying where it is," I would quit... for awhile. I don't think I would ever stop playing PoE entirely, but it would go from a game that I could "no life" for a couple months at a time to a game I would play for a week or two, and come back every half year or so. In short, I would have no reason to play all the cool alts that I wanted to. I would have no reason to ever spend another dime on stash tabs, character slots, or any other features they introduce. I would end up getting more play time out of D3 or TL2 than I would out of this game, even though this one currently beats those by a 200-600 hours (depending on which game you are talking about).

In short, I would treat this the same way I do D2. I would come back everyone once in awhile because I miss it, play a character to a high level 80-90 range, realize how little there is for me to do, get bored, and quit for a long time again. The hassle of having to do Lab on each alt would be enough to keep me from even creating them to begin with--as it does now.

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Albinosaurus wrote:

If they came out and said, "Hey, Lab is here to stay, and Ascendancy is staying where it is," I would quit... for awhile. I don't think I would ever stop playing PoE entirely, but it would go from a game that I could "no life" for a couple months at a time to a game I would play for a week or two, and come back every half year or so. In short, I would have no reason to play all the cool alts that I wanted to. I would have no reason to ever spend another dime on stash tabs, character slots, or any other features they introduce. I would end up getting more play time out of D3 or TL2 than I would out of this game, even though this one currently beats those by a 200-600 hours (depending on which game you are talking about).

In short, I would treat this the same way I do D2. I would come back everyone once in awhile because I miss it, play a character to a high level 80-90 range, realize how little there is for me to do, get bored, and quit for a long time again. The hassle of having to do Lab on each alt would be enough to keep me from even creating them to begin with--as it does now.

Yes, a nostalgia thing, I remember how much fun PoE was before labyrinth. I wish I could play that game again. So, you play the PoE version that has been "corrupted" by labyrinth for a character or two. Go into a labyrinth and then say to yourself, enough of this nonsense, I want to have fun when I play. Oh well, let the dung beetles eat their poop, I'm going to find something else to do.

Been playing the living hell out of Warframe since they recently had a big update, and lots of great QOL changes coming through. The devs are extremely communicative, and they stream all kinds of stuff about what's coming up and how they feel about certain issues. Basically, they do all the things right that GGG is currently doing wrong.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Albinosaurus wrote:

If they came out and said, "Hey, Lab is here to stay, and Ascendancy is staying where it is," I would quit... for awhile. I don't think I would ever stop playing PoE entirely, but it would go from a game that I could "no life" for a couple months at a time to a game I would play for a week or two, and come back every half year or so. In short, I would have no reason to play all the cool alts that I wanted to. I would have no reason to ever spend another dime on stash tabs, character slots, or any other features they introduce. I would end up getting more play time out of D3 or TL2 than I would out of this game, even though this one currently beats those by a 200-600 hours (depending on which game you are talking about).

In short, I would treat this the same way I do D2. I would come back everyone once in awhile because I miss it, play a character to a high level 80-90 range, realize how little there is for me to do, get bored, and quit for a long time again. The hassle of having to do Lab on each alt would be enough to keep me from even creating them to begin with--as it does now.

Yes, a nostalgia thing, I remember how much fun PoE was before labyrinth. I wish I could play that game again. So, you play the PoE version that has been "corrupted" by labyrinth for a character or two. Go into a labyrinth and then say to yourself, enough of this nonsense, I want to have fun when I play. Oh well, let the dung beetles eat their poop, I'm going to find something else to do.

What is stopping you from playing poe like it was before the lab other than your own entitlement? The game plays exactly the same without ascendancies as it did before they were introduced. If you indeed had "so much fun" before the lab then your demands are the only things keeping you from having fun again.

If you had fun before , and you can't now, it's self inflicted.

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Albinosaurus wrote:

Been playing the living hell out of Warframe since they recently had a big update, and lots of great QOL changes coming through. The devs are extremely communicative, and they stream all kinds of stuff about what's coming up and how they feel about certain issues. Basically, they do all the things right that GGG is currently doing wrong.

played warframe a lot when it first came out. very fun game. Hope you are happy there.

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Xtorma wrote:

What is stopping you from playing poe like it was before the lab other than your own entitlement? The game plays exactly the same without ascendancies as it did before they were introduced. If you indeed had "so much fun" before the lab then your demands are the only things keeping you from having fun again.

If you had fun before , and you can't now, it's self inflicted.

OBLIVION

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Albinosaurus wrote:

If they came out and said, "Hey, Lab is here to stay, and Ascendancy is staying where it is," I would quit... for awhile. I don't think I would ever stop playing PoE entirely, but it would go from a game that I could "no life" for a couple months at a time to a game I would play for a week or two, and come back every half year or so. In short, I would have no reason to play all the cool alts that I wanted to. I would have no reason to ever spend another dime on stash tabs, character slots, or any other features they introduce. I would end up getting more play time out of D3 or TL2 than I would out of this game, even though this one currently beats those by a 200-600 hours (depending on which game you are talking about).

In short, I would treat this the same way I do D2. I would come back everyone once in awhile because I miss it, play a character to a high level 80-90 range, realize how little there is for me to do, get bored, and quit for a long time again. The hassle of having to do Lab on each alt would be enough to keep me from even creating them to begin with--as it does now.

Like with the closure thread where ive been meaning to post for a while now.
Yes it would indeed have been very sweet if we could get an answer or some info on the matter.

A while ago if anyone remembers i had the idea to ask from the devs themselves a thing like that. The answer i got? "While the idea is very nice and would be really informing for all, unfortunately we dont have the time because we are producing the next expansion"

I cant say i did not expect it. Labyrinth up to this day is still the only major implementation in the game that literally they shared info about only once and in the most pathetic way (2nd week of perandus) with like minimal stats that even then showed how poorly it was received, not only that but they PROMISED IN WRITING that more stats like those would follow... so where are those stats?. Never before they have done this, even for basic skills they had the time to post some history and design process, and they cant with their baby lab that they so much love? Would it take more than 1 hour to write a simple paragraph regarding the issue, or a simple yes or no? No it wont. They just continue to follow their silence/ignore policy like nothing has happened to the game. Numbers show otherwise though, are you going to ignore them as well or is it natural for a league to die in the first 2weeks? (HC prophecy).

Their silence/ignore treatment ofcourse goes very well with their economy focus on the gaming whales. By not giving any information on things like that, the limbo that is created forces people (due to their optimistic nature) to hope for the best, while in the process GGG milks them as long as possible for the period. At least those who are still interested in the game, cause there are others long gone.

That tactic is a very dishonest and deceitful practice, and only makes us lose the trust we once had for the company. Would your younger selves Chris behave in a such deceptive way, especially to your playerbase? No, in the past a manifesto would have been posted almost immediately discussing the issue with your community. Not half words. Shame.

I wont lie im pretty hyped and optimistic for the future expansion, but honestly the back of my mind is still troubled. How could they made such a huge intrusive decision to the game's fluidity without even letting us test it beforehand. Such a poor decision to force your whole playerbase to turn from 100% pure ARPG to a mandatory run of arcade silliness. Guess if the expansion has something exciting to offer ill stay even without ascending, after all the core game is still fun (at leasts parts of it after so many hours). Sad.

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Regulator wrote:

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Xtorma wrote:

What is stopping you from playing poe like it was before the lab other than your own entitlement? The game plays exactly the same without ascendancies as it did before they were introduced. If you indeed had "so much fun" before the lab then your demands are the only things keeping you from having fun again.

If you had fun before , and you can't now, it's self inflicted.

OBLIVION

It's an honest question. what has changed about the game , that ruins a persons fun now, as opposed to 6 months ago. A person can do the exact same thing now, that they did 6 months ago when they were having fun.