- the vaal orb, a fake for causal player? -

Hi
Well, long story short:
I managed it to 6L the infernale mantle 3 times since talisman started.
(lucky)
I vaaled them all.
First become yellow rare unlinked,
second got the "avoid shock mod" roll,
third become yellow rare unlinked.

Now you could say unlucky, RNG, and so on.

But, serious, where is the point of destroying a 6L item, that is already hard to obtain for any causal player. If the vaal orb would just have a very low rate to give (in this case the "+1 skill" roll) the best roll and a far higher rate to give any other "senseless" roll, well, than the causal player could still use it, or sell it to any other causal.
But if it is destroyed, all effort was for nuts.

It kills the motivation to go on, it kills the fun to use the vaal orb again, and it makes simply sad (what is I guess not the point of GGG)

So again, why is this function still involved, why can a vaal orb destroy a great, hard to get item?

Because it is against the causal player. It is for the cash player, who buy 10 6L and simply throw their vaals on it untill they get thier desired result. The rest will be sold to causals.
The market stays clean, not everyone is able to obtain too fast a 6L.

But why? What is wrong about it to buy cheap a unique vaaled 6L?
You still need the right colours, there will still be those cash player who sell their +1 skill roll for for a much higher rate (currently 120ex!)

So this BiS item still won`t be reachable for the causals, there still will be a reason also for hardcore gamers to grind and go on, cuz it will still be hard to get a 6L desiered vaal roll, but the causals will get more. They would win, they could test new links/builds, they could get to the end content of this game, and mostly of all, after you vaaled an item, you would never get again this "outch" feeling in your stomach, like wtf, ...

What do you think about it?

Okay I honestly did not understand what you just said. Something about vaal orb shits on casual players?

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I_NO wrote:

Something about vaal orb shits on casual players?

... something like that, yes. ...

Oh well that's the intention. It destroys everyone not just casuals lol

The fact that you can lose it all is EXACTLY why it is fun for some folks.

Reminds me of I should vaal orb all my shit later on I don't even play anymore.

So don't vaal your 6L.

Why would any casual player who find 6 links expensive and hard to acquire, risk bricking it?

Yes, it might be BiS, but you by no means need or require the +1 skill gems for 120ex if you can't afford it.

Having written a forum post that long, I'm assuming you're familiar with the risks of the vaal orb. And clearly it isn't within your means to use them on six links.

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I_NO wrote:

Oh well that's the intention. It destroys everyone not just casuals lol

:D

Nagh, not really.
Cuz a $$player$$ simply buy the next 10 6L and try it again, and again and again (in the worstcase).
But a causal player can`t do it.
I`m not talking about me, I`m pretty sure I will 6L an Infernale Mantle again,
and to be honest, I`m silly enough to vaal it for the 4th time... And so on..
(*crazysonofawitch*)

But I started this topic to discuss about it, because I think, that many causals would simply say fuc* off and stop to use the vaal orb, or also in the worstcase, even stop to play.
(that was my first though after the "RNG" killed my 6L)

And my intention is to discuss, if it is really necessary to destory an item, wouldn`t it be enough fail and to get in 9/10 times one of the senseless rolls? Wouldn`t it be a win for all the causals, and so at least for the game, if the causla could still use the vaaled item?

I think yes, it would be better.

Yes, it's necessary to risk destroying the item, that's part of why the value of it so high.
It's also why it's stupid fun to do it.

Again, keep in mind as someone previously stated in the thread. Vaaling items in this manner is BEYOND end-game. In other areas of the game, such as strongboxes and vaaling maps etc. it's a tool.