Talisman beating Torment as most boring league !

This league could be really awesome but there are a few things that are preventing this:

1. We need a way to get our hands on more rare t1's. Either increase the drop rate or incorporate a mechanic to upgrade white/blues into rares.

2. Upgrading t2 into t3's and t3's into t4's is really frustrating because you need 5 different bases.

3. Rigwald being ilvl dependent is not a fun mechanic. Why not have his items drop at all ilvls but increase the drop rate of the more rare uniques by the level of the zone? For example, his weapons would have a 1% chance to drop in a 60+ zone, 5% in 70+ and 20% in 80+.

Even my i80 rigwald dropped me the ring. I'll just buy his other drops I guess. Way too much work for a chance at an item.

League is dead asfter first month like always.

Only trades i see going on are conversions to regrets and fusings so ppl prepare for future switch to standard.

Convert all currency to regrets and wait for new chellenge league.

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reboticon wrote:

Even my i80 rigwald dropped me the ring. I'll just buy his other drops I guess. Way too much work for a chance at an item.

If you think about it, it's an absurd amount of work just to get into one 80 fight. If your rng is decent, it will probably take around 200 77+ maps just to get into one fight. Sorry about your luck.

you know you don fucked up when you design a system less accessible than post nerf atziri

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

you know you don fucked up when you design a system less accessible than post nerf atziri

Atziri: easier to access harder to clear
Rigwald: harder to access easier to clear

seems like a lot of busy work. I just started two days ago and hate having to collect shit just to collect more shit 5x5x5x5 bleh. Reminds me of map combining. I hate busy work like that.

I think the issue with this is, what are they going to do with the entire thing?

Does talisman get ported over to normal leagues? = RIP normal rare amulets. I heave not worn one since the league started.

Does it become a zana mod? = RIP rigvald, noone is going to bother to spend ~300x however much the zana mod costs in chaos for a go at your uniques. (when the other gated bossfight gives arguably much better rewards for a fraction of the effort to actually get in)

Does it become legacy? = I dont think anyone'll actually care about more legacy stuff in the core leagues at this point. But i doubt that happens because talisman looks like a whole lot of effort to just turn into dust later.

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Cataca wrote:

But i doubt that happens because talisman looks like a whole lot of effort to just turn into dust later.

Yes, that's my line of thinking too, I'm putting my money on talisman making it into the core game. It isn't invasive either, like warbands, tempest, invasion, or, god forbid, beyond.

There's another thing, if you're gonna collect talismans that's an extra stash tab you need.

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Barivius wrote:

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

you know you don fucked up when you design a system less accessible than post nerf atziri

Atziri: easier to access harder to clear
Rigwald: harder to access easier to clear

Id rather be gated by something that will kick my ass rather than something whose ass i need to find before kicking...


As far as i am concerned Rigwlad is vapor content. it takes so much unrewarding effort to get too him that he might as well not exist for most players. Atziri is technically the same way but atleast you are pretty much guaranteed at least 1 realistic shot at her via the accumulation of fragments through natural cruel - merci progression.

A self found player is lucky to be in their mid 80s by the time they can do riggy, and that riggy will probably be barely level 60 thanks to all those worthless low ilevel talismans you picked up.

Very very very poorly balanced mechanic. which is a shame because i hear the boss itself is pretty cool.

its just all the shit you do to get to him and the rewards for doing it are just dismal. especially since the ilevel of the 400 or so talismans you need to melt down or trade for factor heavily into if the boss is a rewarding experience or not.


level 73 riggy is fun, level 60 rigi is a dominus run ...finished in 1.5 minutes and forgotten in 1.5 more.