Talisman beating Torment as most boring league !

Right. There are good talismans. Problem is you can play for weeks and never see one. And once you find one, all your amulets (and the flexibility they allow) are outdated. So what? So now you have about 5% less interest in drops. Compound that with other BIS uniques and drops are starting to look less and less interesting.

I like the unique socketed talisman. I find it great for holding my golem gem.

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raics wrote:

I see you never played a truly boring league. The cake is still firmly in possession of Domination and Onslaught in their respective categories and that's where it will most likely stay.

That can only come from someone who didnt play Onslaught.

The league forced grouping to farm maps, which made it interesting by default. Content was still fresh, the game had broken BiS uniques left and right. Getting your hands on a Shavs, a Void Battery, a Kaom, hell getting a 6 Link still was something special.

Onslaught itself probably was one of the best leagues ever. Not because of its mechanics but because of its content. You didnt need hard league mechanics because Piety still one shot you with GMP balls. Back then items, maps and mechanics were still fresh. That wasnt boring, not int the slightest.

The biggest problem I have with HC Talisman are the non-existent GG uniques. What the hell am I supposed to play the game for if it isnt for build enabling, broken unique items? The 100th 6 link? Re-using skills that are just slightly different from what I used before? Its broken uniques that make this game and Talisman has none. Skyforth is a broken item, but its a broken item that is specifically tailored for a certain build and serves as a boost, not a build enabler.

And lets not forget the laggs. I dont know if its my computer but holy shit has this league made me lagg. I am not gonna blame the freeze screen for myself dying (since I forgot to activate my logout macro anyway) but being forced to log every time you open a strongbox with an Exile in it, someone joining the instance or a Talisman popping up really annoys the living hell out of me.

I dunno i kinda like it...well this is also the first and only time I've ever six linked a chest on my own...so I'm biased.

Oh and since people are showing off cool Talis:

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nynyny wrote:

Onslaught itself probably was one of the best leagues ever. Not because of its mechanics but because of its content. You didnt need hard league mechanics because Piety still one shot you with GMP balls. Back then items, maps and mechanics were still fresh. That wasnt boring, not int the slightest.

And that has what exactly to do with onslaught mechanic? If nothing in the game can thrill you anymore I don't think there's anything devs can do to make it fresh enough for you again short of making a new game. Been there, seen the sights, experienced everything it has to offer until it grew stale, for you it's obviously time to move on.

Ah so we have come to the part of the league where we say it isn't fun and we need more drops. Comforting stuff. In a few days we can get to the part where everyone asks for map drops to be increased.

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Onslaught itself probably was one of the best leagues ever. Not because of its mechanics but because of its content. You didnt need hard league mechanics because Piety still one shot you with GMP balls. Back then items, maps and mechanics were still fresh. That wasnt boring, not int the slightest.

That... had nothing to do with the league. The league modifier wasn't what made it fun, what you described is the game itself being fun.

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raics wrote:

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nynyny wrote:

Onslaught itself probably was one of the best leagues ever. Not because of its mechanics but because of its content. You didnt need hard league mechanics because Piety still one shot you with GMP balls. Back then items, maps and mechanics were still fresh. That wasnt boring, not int the slightest.

And that has what exactly to do with onslaught mechanic? If nothing in the game can thrill you anymore I don't think there's anything devs can do to make it fresh enough for you again short of making a new game. Been there, seen the sights, experienced everything it has to offer until it grew stale, for you it's obviously time to move on.

Youre purposely missing the point.

Onslaught wasnt just the mechanics. It was all the content being new. You dont judge your experience by how good it looks in the future. You judge it by how good it was. And I can tell that you never played Onslaught. You just looked at the league modifiers and were like 'lmao diz waz probaby preddy b0ring h3h3h', without having the slightest clue what youre talking about.

Not even gonna start on the fact that you apparently lack the ability to read. I specifically told you how the devs can make the game interesting. Its not skills, not map layouts, not acts. Its uniques that actually have an impact. Not the filler shit that they have been releasing for ages now. No one needs uniques that are nothing but better rares.

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XigTek wrote:

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Onslaught itself probably was one of the best leagues ever. Not because of its mechanics but because of its content. You didnt need hard league mechanics because Piety still one shot you with GMP balls. Back then items, maps and mechanics were still fresh. That wasnt boring, not int the slightest.

That... had nothing to do with the league. The league modifier wasn't what made it fun, what you described is the game itself being fun.

Tell me, can you play Onslaught right now? Can you select the league and play it? No? Well then all that content was part of that league. It was content of the experience back then, whether you like it or not.

The only reason you value leagues so much nowadays is because you know almost all the content already. If that wasnt the case you wouldnt need a league. All the interesting items and uniques, whether league exclusive or not, were part of the Onslaught experience. Simple as that.

EDIT: To add to this. A league isnt just the league modifier. Tempest wasnt just tempests. It was the act, the maps, the items, the balancing. Everything that came with 2.0, thats what Tempest as a league was.

I regret not playing beyond league.

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nynyny wrote:

Youre purposely missing the point.

Onslaught wasnt just the mechanics. It was all the content being new. You dont judge your experience by how good it looks in the future. You judge it by how good it was. And I can tell that you never played Onslaught. You just looked at the league modifiers and were like 'lmao diz waz probaby preddy b0ring h3h3h', without having the slightest clue what youre talking about.

Not even gonna start on the fact that you apparently lack the ability to read. I specifically told you how the devs can make the game interesting. Its not skills, not map layouts, not acts. Its uniques that actually have an impact. Not the filler shit that they have been releasing for ages now. No one needs uniques that are nothing but better rares.

It's only fair, you're missing the point of the thread.

We've had this same conversation about uniques back when they upped the unique drops and I still don't really give a rat's ass.