[2.6] TankyTwirl - PhysSpell CoC Cyclone

Question: How do you fit HoI, Discipline, and Hatred in. I just took the -4% reduced mana reserved and can still only take two of them. Currently running HoI and Hatred with 391 reserved and 151/542. It seems like I should be able to activate Discipline but I can not.

@mrpetrov: You can use Blood Rage, but then you can't play too slow because of 4% degen.


@Griff112: 4% near CI, 12% Charisma clouster, or enlighten lvl 3/lvl 2(in vertex vaal mask)

I have 2 small question, how much ES i should have before going CI? Second how much DPS i lose when i skip EK. Curently i'm using tabula so i have 6L, but when i will spec into CI i want use rare hybrid.

@Griff112

As DemoN said, you get the Charisma Cluster instead of the 4% first. Later when you have a Enlighten lvl3 or lvl2 + The Vertex you can respec out of Charisma.

With Enlighten 3 + Vertex you also don´t need the small 4% node next to CI.

@mrpetrov

I think its fine as it is, we get it when we need it.
Bloodrage would be possible, but with the Frenzys we get from the Ascendancy now it would have next to no benefit.

@DemoN_M4U

I think switching with around 4k should be fine.

For the DPS: I have lots of Videos on my Youtube with only Bladefall, the new "Uber Itzaro" Video is also on a 5L with only BF. (and in that Video its also only a lvl 18 or 19 BF Gem)

So ye, its enough for almost everything in the game.

I got a new Chest!


Now i need some 6L luck!

wich would you use
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@Drey070

Depends if you need the Res and if you could respec a +30 Node with the STR on the Rustic Sash.

I mean the Chain Belt has lots more ES and Res, but if you don´t need the Res and can save a Skillpoint with the STR just use the Rustic.

Thanks for updating the FAQ for reflect, although it actually ended up giving me another question. What do you mean by extinct? Did reflect stop showing up as often as it used to? I remember back when I used to play (I'm talking about two years ago here, so I'm out of the loop) it used to pop up all the time and was a serious PITA to deal with.

Not sure if you brought this up or not but Did you ever think to swap in Posion vs EK for boss fights?

Edit: was thinking to take off hatred and HOI and add a Enfeeble or Temp chains and stack posion sorta like the Bladefall mine build and was just wondering if you tested this out.

Did 5 lab runs yesterday ... until i stumbled upon ... now its ok! im really fast at 6 charges with 63% cyclone, 72% EK and about 63% BF crit chance.

But a mate offered me to trade my
against a 5l 3g1b1r one with 300 e/s ... i dont know what to do :S

But meanwhile im trying to jewel this one .. but im not really lucky at it :D

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ZweihundertMorder wrote:

@mrpetrov

You also get 20% MORE chance to evade while not on full ES from the Ascendancy (Shade Form) which alone makes the Evasion pretty strong, combined with Stibnite + Smokecloud blind it´s allready pretty insane, with Jade ontop it should be like 95% chance to evade against allmost any attack in the game while not on full ES.

I will test this a bit once i got my Flasks sorted, i need to switch some effects on it.

I tested this out in-game and I can't see any increase in Evade chance when not at full ES. Is this a bug?

@mrpetrov

Yes its a known Bug. The Display does not change but it does work.

@Fetzi_at

You will have a VERY hard time getting 4 Green 1 Red on a pure ES Base.

@Azazelx53

I said somethings about Poison here on page 47:

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2. Most of the Poison Bladefall Power comes from the damage double dipping with Trap/Mine nodes. You can´t do that as CoC and Bladefall also can´t doubledip on Projectile Damage. Only thing it can do is Area damage and there isn´t much Area Damage on the Tree.

If you would like to play a Poison CoC better go EK and lots of Projectile Nodes.

3. Poison is a DoT and you can´t Leech from a DoT, this build stays alive with lots of Leech, Poison does not help at all.

I get that EK isn´t flashy and stuff, but guys just look at the tooltip. EK is higher than BF, we get EK close to 95% crit chance, its amazing. IT alot more than 20% of the bladefall damage.

I also tested using Poison last league with a Pathfinder Version. It was fun but the Poison DOT wasn´t that impressive and i used Vulnerability on Hit Gloves allready.

I mean it was fun but just wasn´t stronger than the Trickster Version imho.

You can find a Video on the Pathfinder Poison Version on my Youtube Channel.

In that Vidoe i was pretty satisfied with the Poison but overall i felt like its not worth trading the defense of Trickster for some more damage you won´t need 90% of the time.

Ontop of that i failed Uber with the Flaskfinder build, i still don´t know why exactly, but somehow even the Double Vaals where a problem for that build.(Used the Gear from my Trickster Version that could kill Uber Deathless so it wasn´t just a gear question)

@opendreamt9

Feel free to use HoA if you like it better! HoI can cause some Lag on big packs so i totaly understand that part!



@sutasafaia

Reflect was changed, it is no longer a Aura on Rares, ony a local Mod.

The Map Mod still makes all mosnters reflect but you don´t need to run it, most builds have one or two mods thay can´t run or don´t like to run. I mean we can even run Blood Magic Maps as CI build so i guess skipping Phys reflect is just fine.

The reflect on single rares just isn´t a problem for me.