Donald Trump
" Controlling what other people say, think and do is the lifeblood of the elitist left. THIS is what pushed Trump to get elected. So long as the left keeps preaching the control other people's lives mantra Trump will win far more than 305 electoral votes in 2020. "The only legitimate use of a computer is to play games." - Eugene Jarvis
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" Oh really? The hypocrisy is astonishing. The right is doing the same. |
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" Who are you to tell Christians how to live? Why are the "progressive morals" of Hollywood the only right way to live? If the majority of some states want to go back on gay marriage, then they should. If the majority of "progressive liberal" states want to be able to kill their own children five minutes before birth, then they should. Let's see which society will survive & prosper in the long run and then decide which ideology is better. Leftism is fighting hard against Christians (while licking the boots of Islamists), but doesn't bring anything to the table in form of morals & spirituality. That's why western societies are more and more lost - marriages are going down, divorces skyrocketing, children being educated by the state or one parent families, no respect for elders, consumerism is the new God, women happines is going down in "feminist" societies... Muh "progress" -_- " You are stuck on nitpicking dogma and taking things literally. Most Christians don't really care if some dude walked on water or not. The point of the religion are the morals & ethics you can derive from those stories. Also believing in a higher power gives a lot of people hope and a direction in life, despite the silly stories. Funny how westerners now rush to India & similar places, in search of sprituality (because leftism is empty) - aren't they turned off by the wacky creationist stories in Hiduism? Jesus returning from the dead is "stupid", but Buddhist reincarnation is not? lol... When night falls She cloaks the world In impenetrable darkness Last edited by morbo#1824 on Nov 21, 2016, 6:04:00 AM
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" Just a nitpick: there are many different Buddhist sects with vastly different interpretations - however, the concept of reincarnation, the wheel of karma and so on isn't to be taken literally as far as I know. And Buddhism as a whole is fundamentally different from the world's major monotheistic religions. It's so different, even calling it a religion is a bit of a stretch. Depends on how you define it, really. All this with the huge disclaimer that the difference between different branches of Buddhism like Tibetan Buddhism and Zen is night and day, so talking about Buddhism as a whole is a bit of an exercise in practical generalization. Anyway, I'm an agnostic atheist and wouldn't call myself religious at all if someone asked me, however, I like a lot of aspects of Buddhism. Couldn't say the same about Christianity and let's not even talk about Islam. You have to be realistic about these things. Logen Ninefingers Last edited by Bars#2689 on Nov 21, 2016, 6:35:37 AM
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well of course you have to control them. what are they going to do, suddenly listen to why being a bigot isn't exactly the nicest thing in the world? and then agree? rofl
folks on the left are tired of trying to reason, and play nice, and talk softly. doing so hasn't drawn the ire of the right, but at the same it hasn't got them to care either. so now they play dirty and talk shit, and the right hates them but at least it's getting the ball rolling. Last edited by Juicebox360#1700 on Nov 21, 2016, 6:35:54 AM
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" Well afaik in Tibetan Buddhism, Dalai Lama & Panchen Lama (the "second in charge"), picks each-other's reincaranted version, eg: when Dalai Lama dies, the current Panchen Lama picks a newborn who is supposed to be the re-incarnation of the dead Dalai Lama, and vice versa. It seems quite a literal interpretation and a basis for selecting the clergy. But anyway, I'm no expert on that. I agree with your assessment that eastern "religions" are more palatable for the average agnostic, than our western ones. Overall they seem to focus a lot more on spirituality & introspection, rather than on rules, politics & punishment. When night falls
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Anyway, speaking about religions, ontopic:
Trump is headed to the White House. Did we just elect our first Jewish president? I'd actually say Trump is the first atheist president (which is ok). Another reason for leftists to not whine 24/7/365. When night falls
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Oh yes, you can certainly interpret it literally if you wish so, and a lot of people do. Same thing as with the Old Testament. Also, as I said, big difference between various denominations. Anyway, I'm also unwilling to go in details as I don't think having read a few books and seen a few movies is enough for a more serious discussion.
However, if you're interested in this, The Way of Zen by Alan Watts gives a great outlook on Hinduism, Tao and Buddhism from the viewpoint of a Westerner before it goes in more detail on Zen. Great book to broaden one's scope. It also provided an analysis of Hindu mythology, the connections to early Buddhism and the subsequent development and branching of some concepts, including karma and reincarnation. One of the premises was the whole Karma thing is a metaphor for our life and the way we tend to repeat our mistakes over and over again if we don't break out of the vicious circle of self delusion. Getting reincarnated as yourself in each passing moment until you learn from your mistakes and so on. Really, fascinating stuff although I'm not sure I understood even half of it. You have to be realistic about these things. Logen Ninefingers Last edited by Bars#2689 on Nov 21, 2016, 7:24:28 AM
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" He is a non-religious Christian, I have never seen him claim to be an Atheist. |
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" I literally just used the wording you used, this is almost exactly what you said in the post I quoted from you, nice too see you arguing against it now, thats very christian (no sarcasm sadly). " to quote another, religion gets its morals from human beings, human beings dont get their morals from religion. America is a far, far, far more religious place than a lot of northern Europe, and suffers more from the consumerism illness you mention that northern Europe. Meanwhile the decline of religion goes hand in hand with people being more educated, less predudice. There is a problem with capitalism, for sure, it completely lacks direction. Thats not a case against no religion as if the lack of religion IS capitalism, thats a case against that particular ideology and is certainly not a case to believe in something that obviously isnt real. Personally I have nothing against marriages going down, divorces is worrying, but then people beating their wives is also going down, gay people and ethnic minorities being beaten or killed out of hate is going down, wheres the KKK at compared to the past? The big difference between Islam and Christianity is that Islam still believes in its own book and teachings. Christians are too ashamed of the nonsense their religion is based on to defend it and too brainwashed into the thing to reject it, you wanna talk about lost people? The west doesnt lick Islams boots, its slaughtering them by the millions. " Well they should care, because if they dont believe it they are not Christians. Having morals that are in line with Christianity does not make you religious, believing in Christ, his book and his teaching makes you a Christian. You cant get rid of the bit where you believe in Christ and the Bible, you can say you have but then you are just deluded on a preposterous level, you are not actually Christian. " No they are stupid too. I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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