Is this the end of POE?

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deathflower wrote:

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StumpyJoe wrote:

It is a little odd seeing you dodging on the first paragraph of my previous post.

It is already answered.

I was talking about grinding. You are the one who opened the topic about HC and SC.

If I already state I don't like grindy games, why would you ask me to play a grindy game? Your action isn't made in my best interest. What is your motive here for asking me to play Hardcore here?

I didn't say it is dying, I say it isn't growing.

Except you are being all defensive in a topic about people saying this game is "dying'. Maybe you don't see it yourself?

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Bars wrote:

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TheWretch wrote:

Their most popular packs because they sold access to the beta, read between the lines, those guys ain't coming back.

GGG are pros at cherry picking what stats they reveal, we weren't born yesterday/

That's actually a good point. GGG pulled off a Tom Sawyer on their playerbase: they made players pay to beta test the game. Then, on top of everything, they didn't listen to the feedback they got and released the Awakening with a fuckton of problems. That's bound to create severe disillusionment and antagonize a lot of players.

I didn't pay for closed beta access and I still lost a great deal of respect and faith in GGG's competence, I can only imagine what it is for someone who fell victim to the Awakening hype, paid for beta access and received a dose of hard, unpleasant reality to the face.

Players might be willing to forgive greedy policy if the results are amazing, but when the results are actually a direct contradiction to the marketing hype, well, players can be vindictive too. I'm reminded of Blizzard who managed to turn from god status into a company despised by many with their series of greedy and unsatisfactory (or outright horrible in D3's case) moves.

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StumpyJoe wrote:

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deathflower wrote:

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StumpyJoe wrote:

It is a little odd seeing you dodging on the first paragraph of my previous post.

It is already answered.

I was talking about grinding. You are the one who opened the topic about HC and SC.

If I already state I don't like grindy games, why would you ask me to play a grindy game? Your action isn't made in my best interest. What is your motive here for asking me to play Hardcore here?

I didn't say it is dying, I say it isn't growing.

Except you are being all defensive in a topic about people saying this game is "dying'. Maybe you don't see it yourself?

Deflection is not helping the situation. I think the a problem here is you splitting some hairs about word use "its not dying, its just not growing" a lot of people would interpret this as you being on the other side of the fence on the topic. There's no motive or reasoning for anything I've said other than participating in discussion about the topic like you.

I genuinely believe there's been some significant misunderstanding with tones in posts.

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Bars wrote:

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TheWretch wrote:

Their most popular packs because they sold access to the beta, read between the lines, those guys ain't coming back.

GGG are pros at cherry picking what stats they reveal, we weren't born yesterday/

That's actually a good point. GGG pulled off a Tom Sawyer on their playerbase: they made players pay to beta test the game. Then, on top of everything, they didn't listen to the feedback they got and released the Awakening with a fuckton of problems. That's bound to create severe disillusionment and antagonize a lot of players.

I didn't pay for closed beta access and I still lost a great deal of respect and faith in GGG's competence, I can only imagine what it is for someone who fell victim to the Awakening hype, paid for beta access and received a dose of hard, unpleasant reality to the face.

Players might be willing to forgive greedy policy if the results are amazing, but when the results are actually a direct contradiction to the marketing hype, well, players can be vindictive too. I'm reminded of Blizzard who managed to turn from god status into a company despised by many with their series of greedy and unsatisfactory (or outright horrible in D3's case) moves.

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Slayertip1 wrote:

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Bars wrote:

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TheWretch wrote:

Their most popular packs because they sold access to the beta, read between the lines, those guys ain't coming back.

GGG are pros at cherry picking what stats they reveal, we weren't born yesterday/

That's actually a good point. GGG pulled off a Tom Sawyer on their playerbase: they made players pay to beta test the game. Then, on top of everything, they didn't listen to the feedback they got and released the Awakening with a fuckton of problems. That's bound to create severe disillusionment and antagonize a lot of players.

I didn't pay for closed beta access and I still lost a great deal of respect and faith in GGG's competence, I can only imagine what it is for someone who fell victim to the Awakening hype, paid for beta access and received a dose of hard, unpleasant reality to the face.

Players might be willing to forgive greedy policy if the results are amazing, but when the results are actually a direct contradiction to the marketing hype, well, players can be vindictive too. I'm reminded of Blizzard who managed to turn from god status into a company despised by many with their series of greedy and unsatisfactory (or outright horrible in D3's case) moves.

+1

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robertredberry wrote:

Next generation games are already coming out that will run on this machine sitting in front of me, it barely runs 3 people parties in POE.

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robertredberry wrote:

Are we witnessing the end of POE?

Another league isn't going to fix the problems they are having with this game:

-Trade is a long way off.

-Maps suck.

-Casters suck.

Next generation games are already coming out that will run on this machine sitting in front of me, it barely runs 3 people parties in POE.

Unfortunately, I already know the answer to my original question. Yep.